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         <title>Turning Off &amp; On my iMac</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/turning_off_on_my_imac.html</link>
         <description>I had an unexpected experience when I was trying to adjust the tilt of &lt;br /&gt;
my mid-2010 27&amp;quot; iMac (running OS 10.6.7) by grabbing the outer edges at &lt;br /&gt;
the bottom and accidentally pushing the power button, the computer just &lt;br /&gt;
shut off with out any warning, after a brief hesitation I pushed the &lt;br /&gt;
power button again and the computer came back to life with all the open &lt;br /&gt;
applications just as they had been.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I did not expect that I would be able to return to where it had abruptly &lt;br /&gt;
left off. Is this normal behavior?</description>
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         <title>Curious temperature / transfer speed behaviour</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/curious_temperature_transfer_spe.html</link>
         <description>In the continuing saga over the odd hanging behavior of my iMac...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Three temperature points done over two cycles (last night and today).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CPU temp 30 - 40C during tests with a CPU load of 2 - 4% on each core &lt;br /&gt;
over the course of the transfer; occasional jumps to 10 - 20%.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Test: transfer a large (closed) file from the system disk to a backup &lt;br /&gt;
disk via Firewire.  Same file is transferred each time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temperature                Time to transfer one&lt;br /&gt;
                               43 GB file (mm:ss)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1st round&lt;br /&gt;
28 - 38C (rose 10û during test)   13:50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
48C                               22:51&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
50C                               24:11&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2nd round (machine cooled overnight (Sleep)).&lt;br /&gt;
30 - 39C (rose 9û during test)    14:01&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
48C                               23:09&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
50C                               24:08&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
More and more it seems the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; in the iMac slows down in ability to read &lt;br /&gt;
as &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temperature goes up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Could be the internal read error rate is higher?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The disk speed is lower as temperature rises?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Smart status is &amp;quot;verified&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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From: Jolly Roger &amp;lt;jollyroger@pobox.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Subject: Re: Curious temperature / transfer speed behaviour&lt;br /&gt;
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 Alan Browne &amp;lt;alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; In the continuing saga over the odd hanging behavior of my iMac...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Three temperature points done over two cycles (last night and today).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; CPU temp 30 - 40C during tests with a CPU load of 2 - 4% on each core &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; over the course of the transfer; occasional jumps to 10 - 20%.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Test: transfer a large (closed) file from the system disk to a backup &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; disk via Firewire.  Same file is transferred each time.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temperature                Time to transfer one&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;                                43 GB file (mm:ss)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 1st round&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 28 - 38C (rose 10û during test)   13:50&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 48C                               22:51&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 50C                               24:11&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 2nd round (machine cooled overnight (Sleep)).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 30 - 39C (rose 9û during test)    14:01&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 48C                               23:09&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 50C                               24:08&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; More and more it seems the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; in the iMac slows down in ability to read &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; as &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temperature goes up.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Could be the internal read error rate is higher?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; The disk speed is lower as temperature rises?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Smart status is &amp;quot;verified&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It could be one o the semiconductor components on the drive is &lt;br /&gt;
experiencing a failure caused by overheating. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What model hard drive is this? What is the manufacturer's stated &lt;br /&gt;
operating temperature range for that model?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
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On 10-10-13 9:31 , Jolly Roger wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; It could be one o the semiconductor components on the drive is&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; experiencing a failure caused by overheating.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; What model hard drive is this? What is the manufacturer's stated&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; operating temperature range for that model?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WDC WD5000AAKS-40YGA0 (500 GB Western Digital).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With another cycle of tests I've noticed the &amp;quot;freeze&amp;quot; correlates more &lt;br /&gt;
closely to the temperature of the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; bay than the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temperature itself. &lt;br /&gt;
  (Unless the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; is reporting temperatures late because of the issue &lt;br /&gt;
itself?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So I'm wondering if it's more of a mechanical issue (thermal expansion &lt;br /&gt;
affecting a connection or something of that nature) than the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now I got the &amp;quot;freezes&amp;quot; to occur again whenever the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temp crosses 51C.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I DL'd a program called SMART Utility.  It reports failures whenever the &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; is in this hanging mode.  (Apple Disk Utility reports the disk as &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;verified&amp;quot; even when the computer is in the intermittent hang state ...)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The spec for the drive says operating temperature of 0 to 60C.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Per Google, page 6 of this report,&lt;br /&gt;
http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
it appears that the best temperature range to operate a &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; is about &lt;br /&gt;
35-45C.  (If I'm interpreting that right).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Given the &amp;quot;failing&amp;quot; report from SMART Utility and that reports only &lt;br /&gt;
occur when in the &amp;quot;hang&amp;quot; zone, I'll run the disk in the range above by &lt;br /&gt;
manually controlling the fan (if I keep it at 1200 rpm that seems enough &lt;br /&gt;
for most of my use).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As the computer is still under Apple Care, will they say &amp;quot;there's no &lt;br /&gt;
problem, the SMART status is 'verified'&amp;quot; or will they accept my report &lt;br /&gt;
and the report from SMART Utility?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Will they accept putting in a disk that I supply to replace the failing one?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Subject: Re: Curious temperature / transfer speed behaviour&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; On 10-10-13 9:31 , Jolly Roger wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; It could be one o the semiconductor components on the drive is&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; experiencing a failure caused by overheating.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; What model hard drive is this? What is the manufacturer's stated&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt; operating temperature range for that model?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; WDC WD5000AAKS-40YGA0 (500 GB Western Digital).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; With another cycle of tests I've noticed the &amp;quot;freeze&amp;quot; correlates more &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; closely to the temperature of the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; bay than the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temperature itself. &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;   (Unless the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; is reporting temperatures late because of the issue &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; itself?)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; So I'm wondering if it's more of a mechanical issue (thermal expansion &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; affecting a connection or something of that nature) than the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Now I got the &amp;quot;freezes&amp;quot; to occur again whenever the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; temp crosses 51C.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I DL'd a program called SMART Utility.  It reports failures whenever the &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; is in this hanging mode.  (Apple Disk Utility reports the disk as &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;verified&amp;quot; even when the computer is in the intermittent hang state ...)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; The spec for the drive says operating temperature of 0 to 60C.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Per Google, page 6 of this report,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; it appears that the best temperature range to operate a &lt;abbr title=&quot;Hard Drive&quot;&gt;HD&lt;/abbr&gt; is about &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; 35-45C.  (If I'm interpreting that right).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Given the &amp;quot;failing&amp;quot; report from SMART Utility and that reports only &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; occur when in the &amp;quot;hang&amp;quot; zone, I'll run the disk in the range above by &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; manually controlling the fan (if I keep it at 1200 rpm that seems enough &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; for most of my use).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; As the computer is still under Apple Care, will they say &amp;quot;there's no &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; problem, the SMART status is 'verified'&amp;quot; or will they accept my report &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; and the report from SMART Utility?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Will they accept putting in a disk that I supply to replace the failing one?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Best to ask them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They will want to reproduce the problem themselves, which will require &lt;br /&gt;
you to tell them how to reproduce it and give them your machine so they &lt;br /&gt;
can.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;gt; As the computer is still under Apple Care, will they say &amp;quot;there's no &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; problem, the SMART status is 'verified'&amp;quot; or will they accept my report &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; and the report from SMART Utility?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;gt; Will they accept putting in a disk that I supply to replace the failing one?&lt;br /&gt;
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not under warranty they won't.</description>
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         <description>The cooling fan on my iMac 3.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo has suddenly come&lt;br /&gt;
on from start up and is running very fast and is also very loud.&lt;br /&gt;
Can anyone advise me what to do with this.  The machine is still  under&lt;br /&gt;
warranty and is only 6 months old.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Peter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
He spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I &lt;br /&gt;
could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far&lt;br /&gt;
from being gruntled.&lt;br /&gt;
P.G. Wodehouse 1881 -1975&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Subject: Re: Cooling  fan on iMac&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 09:42:01 -0500&lt;br /&gt;
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In article &amp;lt;1jpwlri.ky50lg1tywowsN%pfjames2000@googlemail.com&amp;gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
 pfjames2000@googlemail.com (Peter James) wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; The cooling fan on my iMac 3.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo has suddenly come&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; on from start up and is running very fast and is also very loud.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Can anyone advise me what to do with this.  The machine is still  under&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; warranty and is only 6 months old.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Peter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I had the same problem on an old Intel iMac and carried it to the &lt;br /&gt;
Genius Bar. They ran a quick test and it said the center fan was&lt;br /&gt;
failing and they replaced it under Apple Care for me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Take it in for check&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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From: peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole)&lt;br /&gt;
Newsgroups: uk.comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system&lt;br /&gt;
Subject: Re: Cooling  fan on iMac&lt;br /&gt;
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:35:35 +0100&lt;br /&gt;
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Peter James &amp;lt;pfjames2000@googlemail.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; The cooling fan on my iMac 3.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo has suddenly come&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; on from start up and is running very fast and is also very loud.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Can anyone advise me what to do with this.  The machine is still  under&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; warranty and is only 6 months old.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That appears to be controlled in firmware. Is there a new version you&lt;br /&gt;
could apply?&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
Peter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999&lt;br /&gt;
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Subject: Re: Cooling  fan on iMac&lt;br /&gt;
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Originator: claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas)&lt;br /&gt;
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In article &amp;lt;1jpwmdk.1o2qlio11uyaqqN%peter@cara.demon.co.uk&amp;gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
Peter Ceresole &amp;lt;peter@cara.demon.co.uk&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;Peter James &amp;lt;pfjames2000@googlemail.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The cooling fan on my iMac 3.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo has suddenly come&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; on from start up and is running very fast and is also very loud.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can anyone advise me what to do with this.  The machine is still  under&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt; warranty and is only 6 months old.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;That appears to be controlled in firmware. Is there a new version you&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;could apply?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Time to try a SMC reset...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From ???@??? Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 1999&lt;br /&gt;
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From: real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell)&lt;br /&gt;
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Subject: Re: Cooling  fan on iMac&lt;br /&gt;
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Claude V. Lucas &amp;lt;claudel@sonic.net&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Peter Ceresole &amp;lt;peter@cara.demon.co.uk&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Peter James &amp;lt;pfjames2000@googlemail.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; The cooling fan on my iMac 3.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo has suddenly come&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; on from start up and is running very fast and is also very loud.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can anyone advise me what to do with this.  The machine is still  under&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; warranty and is only 6 months old.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;That appears to be controlled in firmware. Is there a new version you&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;gt;could apply?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Time to try a SMC reset...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;lt;http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And if that doesn't work, send it back for repair.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rowland.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell@dog.physics.org&lt;br /&gt;
                                            Sorry - the spam got to me&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.mag-uk.org                             http://www.bmf.co.uk&lt;br /&gt;
UK biker?   Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:42:01 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>Fan activity with Leopard</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/fan_activity_with_leopard.html</link>
         <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
iMac G5 without iSight + &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.5&quot;&gt;Leopard&lt;/abbr&gt; 10.5.6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since I've made the upgrade from &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.3&quot;&gt;Panther&lt;/abbr&gt; 10.3.9 to &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.5&quot;&gt;Leopard&lt;/abbr&gt; 10.5.6,&lt;br /&gt;
I have noticed that the Fan activity is bigger, there's much&lt;br /&gt;
more noise and they runs Faster ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it because &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.5&quot;&gt;Leopard&lt;/abbr&gt; needs more power from the CPU ?&lt;br /&gt;
(in comparaison with &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.3&quot;&gt;Panther&lt;/abbr&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What's your experience / feedback ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;abbr title=&quot;Thanks In Advance&quot;&gt;TIA&lt;/abbr&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thierry</description>
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         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/cpu_too_hot.html</link>
         <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
iMac G5 + &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.5&quot;&gt;Leopard&lt;/abbr&gt; 10.5.6&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When my iMac G5 works in a very intensive way,&lt;br /&gt;
it switch suddely in the sleep mode.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It didn't happend under &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.3&quot;&gt;Panther&lt;/abbr&gt; 10.3.9&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think it happend because the CPU is too hot.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do you know if it's possible to stop this switch ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;abbr title=&quot;Thanks In Advance&quot;&gt;TIA&lt;/abbr&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thierry</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:03:43 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>iG5 fans</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/ig5_fans.html</link>
         <description>Today, my iMac G5 started running its fan faster than usual. It wasn't&lt;br /&gt;
that noisy, not about to crash into the Hudson (or not, as the case&lt;br /&gt;
might be) but just more than it should be. I looked in Activity Monitor,&lt;br /&gt;
but the heaviest CPU activity was due to Activity monitor. And it was&lt;br /&gt;
around 7%. This went on all day whenever the Mac was awake. To begin&lt;br /&gt;
with, I could see that the sun was shining brilliantly onto the back of&lt;br /&gt;
the iMac, so okay, winter's over... We went out to get a shopping life.&lt;br /&gt;
Back this evening, woke the Mac and the fans gently ramped up. No good.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So, I tried the usual best thing; I restarted it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And now after half an hour it's still almost totaly quiet. As it should&lt;br /&gt;
be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Why the hell would it do that? &lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
Peter</description>
         <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:11:55 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>iMac sleep/crash</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/imac_sleep_crash.html</link>
         <description>hello all, i would really really appreciate your help with this!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My brand new ( 6 month) iMac G5 - keeps going to sleep unexpectedly.&lt;br /&gt;
sometime is in tinervals of 10 minutes.. other times ten seconds!&lt;br /&gt;
its just sleep.. no powerdown..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
but its unexpected and sometimes it barely even starts befre it goes&lt;br /&gt;
to sleep.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i was wondering if anyone migh know what is causing it?</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:36:35 EST</pubDate>
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         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/sleep_wake.html</link>
         <description>My iMac (C2D latest OS etc) seems to wake at random and then fail to &lt;br /&gt;
sleep after the period set in Preferences. The wake event is recorded as:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oct 22 21:06:42 upstairs-2 configd[14]: AppleTalk shutdown&lt;br /&gt;
Oct 22 21:06:43 upstairs-2 kernel[0]: System Sleep&lt;br /&gt;
Oct 22 21:06:42 upstairs-2 configd[14]: AppleTalk shutdown complete&lt;br /&gt;
Oct 23 04:40:01 upstairs-2 kernel[0]: System Wake&lt;br /&gt;
Oct 23 04:39:53 upstairs-2 airportd[3855]: FastFinder scanning channels &lt;br /&gt;
again&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The computer will stay switched on with this system.log message every &lt;br /&gt;
two minutes or so:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oct 23 10:00:33 upstairs-2 ntpd[27]: sendto(17.72.255.12) (fd=23): No &lt;br /&gt;
route to host&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any idea why it might wake/fail to sleep?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks, Rob</description>
         <pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:39:45 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>Scheduled Shutdown and External Hard Drives</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/scheduled_shutdown_and_external_.html</link>
         <description>I have my iMac scheduled (via Energy Saver prefs) to shut down at 3 AM and&lt;br /&gt;
start up at 8 AM. I'm not sure if I should adhere to such a routine, or&lt;br /&gt;
simply leave the machine running 24 X 7 (both alternatives have their vocal&lt;br /&gt;
supporters, and I'd welcome your opinions. :) ).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I also have Time Machine backing up to an external drive, and will be&lt;br /&gt;
running SuperDuper! to a second, daisy-chained external.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to getting this machine, I'd only connect an external drive when I&lt;br /&gt;
wanted to perform a manual backup; I'd then dismount it and turn it off,&lt;br /&gt;
_especially_ prior to shutting down the computer to which it was connected.&lt;br /&gt;
As I understood it, that was the recommended way of connecting/disconnecting&lt;br /&gt;
an external drive.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But now that the externals are always connected and &amp;quot;on&amp;quot; to enable automatic&lt;br /&gt;
backups, I'm unsure what happens when the Energy Saver schedule kicks in to&lt;br /&gt;
shut down the iMac: Does it shut down the system &amp;quot;gracefully,&amp;quot; by first&lt;br /&gt;
dismounting the external drives?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
iMac (24&amp;quot;, 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD)  OS X (10.5.4)</description>
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         <title>Not sleeping</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/not_sleeping.html</link>
         <description>Daniel Cohen &amp;lt;danspam@f2s.com&amp;gt; writes:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; My iMac (late 2007) running 10.5.5 (and previously 10.5.4) seems not to&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; sleep unless I make it do so manually.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; The Energy Saver setting doesn't seem to work, but on the other hand&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; display sleep does work. This suggests that something unexpected is&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; accessing the hard drive.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Is there a known bug regarding this? If not, is there anything I should&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; do to find out what is stopping sleep.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This sounds like something is running, so the computer doesn't appear&lt;br /&gt;
to be idle.  In my case it's either a weather or clouds display program&lt;br /&gt;
(or maybe both), so I have the user who won't give them up just put her&lt;br /&gt;
computer to sleep manually.  These are both menu bar items, they don't&lt;br /&gt;
show up in the dock.  You may have something similar running...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Billy Y..</description>
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         <title>iMac C2Ds won't power up</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/imac_c2ds_won_t_power_up.html</link>
         <description>I recently purchased 29 new iMac C2Ds and then went to Europe for 24&lt;br /&gt;
days.  When I recently returned, I found two iMacs which won't start&lt;br /&gt;
up upon pressing the power button.  Having seen similar behavior on an&lt;br /&gt;
iBook, I'm wondering if there is a trick to get the circuit's 5V of&lt;br /&gt;
standby voltage to actually do something.</description>
         <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:51:35 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>G5 iMac Sleep Setting Won't Work</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/g5_imac_sleep_setting_won_t_work.html</link>
         <description>In article &amp;lt;OldDog-A0FE08.08381503092008@news.cha.sbcglobal.net&amp;gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
 OldCSMAer &amp;lt;OldDog@NOSPAM.com&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I can manually make it sleep by hitting command-option eject, or by &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; using the Apple menu sleep command.  It is set for sleep after 10 &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; minutes in the Energy pref. pane, but it won't sleep.  When I &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; troubleshoot this issue, I am making sure there are no apps running that &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; require a confirm command to shut down.  Also making sure no wonky games &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; are running that interfere.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; This machine is the last G5 iMac...it has the Eyesight camera, 1 gig of &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; RAM, and the latest version of &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.5&quot;&gt;Leopard&lt;/abbr&gt;.  The Apple forums talk about a &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; sleep issue with some G5 iMacs, but they appear to be earlier models.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Any suggestions?  Thanks, as always.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Very often the cause is an application that prevents the machine from &lt;br /&gt;
sleeping.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
Send responses to the relevant news group rather than to me, as&lt;br /&gt;
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM&lt;br /&gt;
filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting&lt;br /&gt;
messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google&lt;br /&gt;
Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JR</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:25:16 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>Strange power problem</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/strange_power_problem.html</link>
         <description>Since the last security update I installed, my iMac's power settings (for&lt;br /&gt;
turning the screen off) have been reversed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They're still set correctly in System Preferences: turn screen off after 3&lt;br /&gt;
minutes. However, since the update, the screen now turns *on* after 3 minutes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally, I switch the screen off by moving the mouse to the corner of the&lt;br /&gt;
screen, but I'm now finding the screen comes on *exactly* 3 minutes after&lt;br /&gt;
doing this!  I've tried rebooting, and changing the settings before changing&lt;br /&gt;
them back, but it still does the same thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
deKay&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
 Lofi Gaming - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk&lt;br /&gt;
 Gaming Diary - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/diary&lt;br /&gt;
 Blog - http://lofi-gaming.org.uk/blog     &lt;br /&gt;
 My computer runs at 3.5MHz and I'm proud of that</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:08:08 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>wake up iMac</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/wake_up_imac.html</link>
         <description>Does anyone know of a way to program an iMac to come out of hibernation at&lt;br /&gt;
a certain time each day? Like a digital thermostat, programmable for M-F&lt;br /&gt;
and S-S? &lt;br /&gt;
Thanks!</description>
         <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 23:44:56 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>Drive spins up every 15 minutes</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/drive_spins_up_every_15_minutes.html</link>
         <description>I'm running 10.5.2 on a Core 2 Duo iMac.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Every 15 minutes I hear my Firewire drive spin up for some reason.  It's &lt;br /&gt;
not on even 15-minute boundaries, so I assume it's tied to my boot or &lt;br /&gt;
login times.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It's not Time Machine, it only runs hourly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I never noticed this happening with the iBook G4 running 10.4.11 that &lt;br /&gt;
this machine replaced.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some third-party utilities I'm running that might be suspects are &lt;br /&gt;
SMARTReporter and Compost.  But I was running them on the iBook, too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I tried running fs_usage, to see if I could catch any unusual process &lt;br /&gt;
running when I hear it spin up, but nothing really stood out.  I saw &lt;br /&gt;
Compost, but not at the times of the spin-ups.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I tried using the Energy Saver option not to spin down drives.  This is &lt;br /&gt;
a little less annoying, since there's no spin-up whine, but I still hear &lt;br /&gt;
the sudden buzzing of the drive as it's being accessed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu&lt;br /&gt;
Arlington, MA&lt;br /&gt;
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***</description>
         <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:56:22 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>G5 iMac likes to sleep</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/g5_imac_likes_to_sleep.html</link>
         <description>On 2008-04-08, Hugh Browton &amp;lt;useneth@**.not.uk&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Dear All &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; This one just in.....&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;We have a problem with a G5 iMac, the mac keeps turning itself off (as if &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; there was a power cut), we have checked connections and changed the power &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; cable but it still keeps doing it every now and then.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
try resetting the SMU:&lt;br /&gt;
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301733&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
worked for me&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
rob</description>
         <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:11:42 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>Airport not working after sleep?</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/airport_not_working_after_sleep.html</link>
         <description>Intel iMac, OS 10.4.11.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After waking the thing up from sleep, Airport seems to be taking a long&lt;br /&gt;
time to re-acquire the signal from the wireless point that I've got&lt;br /&gt;
plugged into the DG814 modem/router.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Still running a non-wireless enabled old G4 on the system, so just&lt;br /&gt;
plugged a wireless point into the router a couple of years ago).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other wireless Macs on the system don't have the problem, so it's an&lt;br /&gt;
iMac issue, not a modem/router or wirelss point issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tried restarting, turning the router off and on and ditto the wireless&lt;br /&gt;
point, but no real joy. It always comes up in the end; just takes time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I suppose I could just plug an ethernat cable in, but does anyone have&lt;br /&gt;
any ideas what might be the problem?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
BMW K1100LT  Ducati 750SS  Honda CB400F, SL125 &amp;amp; SH50&lt;br /&gt;
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time&lt;br /&gt;
and hassle for no tangible benefit.&amp;quot;</description>
         <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:17:06 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>New iMac sleep problems</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/new_imac_sleep_problems.html</link>
         <description>On 13/3/08 08:54, deKay wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I'm having some trouble with scheduling my iMac's sleep patterns.  I want to&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; put it to sleep at 23:30 and wake at 7:00.  This was OK and worked, until I&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; realised that the thing was going to sleep after half an hour's non-use&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; This is no good, as I need access to it remotely during the day, so don't want&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; it going to sleep then.  So I switched &amp;quot;Put the computer to sleep when it is&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; inactive for:&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Never&amp;quot;.  And now it doesn't go to sleep at the scheduled&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; time :/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Is this normal behaviour? Is there a setting I'm missing?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It should sleep on schedule. However, when I had a similar problem it &lt;br /&gt;
was due to an application not allowing it to sleep. Try a scheduled &lt;br /&gt;
sleep while you're around - with your normal app set up running and see &lt;br /&gt;
if it obeys. I forget now exactly what it was that prevented the sleep &lt;br /&gt;
but I know it does work as it did it to me yesterday - went to sleep at &lt;br /&gt;
the scheduled time which I'd forgotten to wipe - and slept half way &lt;br /&gt;
through encoding a dvd... It started encoding again when I woke it and &lt;br /&gt;
seems to have picked up again where it left off but I haven't played the &lt;br /&gt;
finished product yet...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
David Kennedy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.anindianinexile.com</description>
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         <title>What might causing this iMac heat-when-off problem?</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/what_might_causing_this_imac_hea.html</link>
         <description>In article &amp;lt;wyvern-1CC5E7.20221504022008@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net&amp;gt;, Madwen &amp;lt;wyvern@nospam.invalid&amp;gt; writes:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;Normally, we leave our computers on and sleep them.  I borrowed my &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;daughter's keyboard yesterday so I turned off her iMac (the now &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;discontinued 17&amp;quot; model) we bought last June.  Today, when I reconnected &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;the keyboard and attempted to turn on her iMac, nothing happened when I &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;pressed the power button on the back.  I tried several times and nothing &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;happened.  At first I thought it was dead.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;Then I noticed that the back was hot--- the quadrant right above the &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;power button.  I unplugged the unit.  It cooled off and I was able to &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;start it again.  It took maybe three times as long to start up as it &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;used to.  After running it for ten minutes, I shut it down again and, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;upon returning one hour later, it was hot again!  After unplugging it &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;from the wall socket, it has again cooled.  I'd appreciate any ideas &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;about what might be going on and how to take up this problem with Apple &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;Care.  Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It sounds like some defect in the power supply.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Regards,&lt;br /&gt;
   Christoph Gartmann&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
 Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452&lt;br /&gt;
 Immunbiologie&lt;br /&gt;
 Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de&lt;br /&gt;
 D-79011  Freiburg, Germany&lt;br /&gt;
               http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html</description>
         <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:51:33 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>Prevent Sleep</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/prevent_sleep.html</link>
         <description>24&amp;quot; iMac, Leopard&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What might cause the machine to sleep when it is set never to sleep?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TIA&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Davoud&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- &lt;br /&gt;
usenet *at* davidillig dawt com</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:53:47 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>Won't shut down</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/won_t_shut_down.html</link>
         <description>New iMac 2.4, 20 inch with &lt;abbr title=&quot;Mac OS X 10.5&quot;&gt;Leopard&lt;/abbr&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At shutdown all programs quit,  desktop clears off like it shoud, and &lt;br /&gt;
the little circle thingy starts working.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
and working, and working, and working but machine won't shut off without &lt;br /&gt;
pushing the power button.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
any suggestions?&lt;br /&gt;
Paul</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:06:34 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>Mains leads</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/mains_leads.html</link>
         <description>Hi Some,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Did any of the iMac models come with strain relief facilities on the&lt;br /&gt;
mains leads do you know, the sort of thing that would stop the mains&lt;br /&gt;
lead pulling / falling out when you turned the screen (unit) a few&lt;br /&gt;
degrees to stop reflections or share the screen with a fellow student&lt;br /&gt;
etc?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have had that happen on stand alone CRT's but then so doing doesn't&lt;br /&gt;
lose all your open data and most of the stand alone TFT's I've used do&lt;br /&gt;
have cable guides built into the stand so they don't generally suffer&lt;br /&gt;
the same issue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All the best ..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
T i m</description>
         <pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 05:53:54 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>iMac G5 fan won't stop blowing</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/imac_g5_fan_won_t_stop_blowing.html</link>
         <description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Usually, I only hear this fan blowing when I have a CD or DVD in the&lt;br /&gt;
optical drive.  Now, however, I have removed the DVD and the fan&lt;br /&gt;
continues blowing even after a reboot.  Is there anything I can do to&lt;br /&gt;
stop this or does the iMac need to be taken in for AppleCare hardware&lt;br /&gt;
support?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks.</description>
         <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:13:58 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>intel Imac - wont go to sleep (another)</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/intel_imac_wont_go_to_sleep_anot.html</link>
         <description>hey folks,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i have an intel based 20&amp;quot; imac sitting on my desk, w/ a second monitor&lt;br /&gt;
connected &amp;amp; running xp in parallels. even tho i have it enabled, my&lt;br /&gt;
mac will not go to sleep mode by itself; it will go to sleep if i use&lt;br /&gt;
the apple menu. it will shut the displays off w/o problems.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
i thought id see if there were any discoveries or consensus on this&lt;br /&gt;
subject, which seems to be popping up occasionally.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
as far as usb devices, i have:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- the standard keyboard&lt;br /&gt;
- ms optical mouse plugged into keyboard&lt;br /&gt;
- Western Digital MyBook USB 2 external harddrive&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
..there is no movement of the mouse preventing sleep. the WD claims it&lt;br /&gt;
will go to sleep when a computer tells it to (confirmed w/ manually-&lt;br /&gt;
induced sleep).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
im going to try some things when i get home, like unplugging the&lt;br /&gt;
mouse, and shutting down parallels (cant remember if ive tested for&lt;br /&gt;
that), and will report back.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
thanks,&lt;br /&gt;
sm</description>
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         <title>SeaMonkey and sleep mode, with OSX</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/seamonkey_and_sleep_mode_with_os.html</link>
         <description>preface:  I use SeaMonkey (SM), the continuation of the abandoned &lt;br /&gt;
Mozilla Suite.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
post:&lt;br /&gt;
Any Mac OSX SM users have problems with their machine staying asleep?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I rarely ever turn my iMac G5 off, I just put it to sleep.  SM is ALWAYS &lt;br /&gt;
running.  Sometimes the machine wakes back up before I even leave the &lt;br /&gt;
room, sometimes I go away for an hour and come back and the machine is &lt;br /&gt;
awake with just the screen asleep.  This has been going on since maybe &lt;br /&gt;
January (I do every OSX update the week it comes out and every SM one also).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recently started quitting SM, and the problem seems to have gone away. &lt;br /&gt;
  I know there's only a few OSX guys that read this group, could you try &lt;br /&gt;
duplicating my problem, or verifying if you are already &amp;quot;sleep prone &lt;br /&gt;
non-quitters&amp;quot;?  ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
GW&lt;br /&gt;
SM 1.1.2 on OSX 10.4.10 on both iMac G5, and PowerBook G4&lt;br /&gt;
ps&lt;br /&gt;
I used to have a problem where if I clicked &amp;quot;get messages&amp;quot; too soon &lt;br /&gt;
after waking the machine up (i.e. network conn not reestablished yet) SM &lt;br /&gt;
would crash the whole User Account.  I'd have to log-out, log-in.  That &lt;br /&gt;
has either gone away or I finally learned to count to ten in my head &lt;br /&gt;
before clicking anything.</description>
         <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:15:19 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>Power Cord</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/power_cord.html</link>
         <description>Is the Power Cord for a G5 iMac PPC the same as the one for  the Intel&lt;br /&gt;
iMac?</description>
         <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:33:10 EST</pubDate>
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         <title>Intel iMac Power Light</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/intel_imac_power_light.html</link>
         <description>I'm sure the power light on my iMac used to be lit when it's on - it &lt;br /&gt;
only illuminates (flashing on/off) when in sleep mode. Is this my fading &lt;br /&gt;
memory or is it supposed to be like this?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rob</description>
         <pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:04:30 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>iMac G5 powers down unexpectedley</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/imac_g5_powers_down_unexpectedle.html</link>
         <description>The subject says it all. If I leave my iMac unattended for somewhere &lt;br /&gt;
between 2-3 hours, it will power down or crash. I'm not sure which, &lt;br /&gt;
since I'm never there to see it happen. There is nothing in the logs to &lt;br /&gt;
indicate the reason for the shutdown or anything suggesting a crash. I &lt;br /&gt;
have no Energy Saver setting that tells it to power down, nor are there &lt;br /&gt;
any schedules set. So I don't know what I should do. Any advice aside &lt;br /&gt;
from sitting next to it w/o touching anythin for 2-3 hours?&lt;br /&gt;
TIA</description>
         <pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:50:20 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>Energy saver schedule not working</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/energy_saver_schedule_not_workin.html</link>
         <description>If I try to set my iMac to power on/wake/sleep/power off using the&lt;br /&gt;
Schedule function in the Energy Saver system preference app nothing&lt;br /&gt;
happens. In all other respects I can sleep/power off ok, manually and&lt;br /&gt;
using an app like iWillQuit.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have tried resetting the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Power Management Unit&quot;&gt;PMU&lt;/abbr&gt;, the SMU and deleting the plist file for&lt;br /&gt;
autowakeup. I have tried in Safe Mode with no other apps running as&lt;br /&gt;
well and got no joy. I have tried looking in the logs but to be honest&lt;br /&gt;
was not entirely sure where I should be looking and what for.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before I try a clean install has anyone come across the same problem?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
17&amp;quot; iMac 1.9GHz G5 with iSight, 1.5GB memory   Mac OS X (10.4.6)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TIA&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--&lt;br /&gt;
Russell</description>
         <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:59:44 YAKST</pubDate>
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         <title>iMac G5 and Sleep or always on?</title>
         <link>http://www.dssw.co.uk/sleepcentre/threads/imac_g5_and_sleep_or_always_on.html</link>
         <description>I sometimes have problems with certain USB devices&lt;br /&gt;
causing my iMac G5 to crash during sleep or restart. I find these&lt;br /&gt;
problems are eliminated if i set the mac not to sleep but to just&lt;br /&gt;
switch off the monitor. Do you think its bad to have the mac on all the&lt;br /&gt;
time?, also will it shorten the life of my mac if i shut it down alot?.</description>
         <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 13:47:52 YAKST</pubDate>
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