DssW - Mac OS X 10.4 - Tiger

Weird one... (couldn't unlock from sleep)

Fri, 02 May 2008 14:58:59 -0500

I hate it when there are irreproducible faults, although in this case I
guess it's better than a permanent serious one. I went to wake up my
Powerbook G4 (running 10.4.something), which I have set to require a
password to wake from sleep. I enter my password and it tells me wrong name
or password. OK, must have mistyped (that first character getting lost
sometimes thing maybe.) Didn't work. Tried a couple of more times, typing
very slowly. No joy. Eventually got the "failed too many times" error.
OK, I have a couple of other accounts on the machine, so I told it to switch
users and tried a different one. Same problem -- wouldn't take the password
and eventually got the "too many times" error. Wondering how I'm going to
recover from this (envisioning I'm going to have to find my master password)
I shut it down by pressing and holding the power switch -- at least that
worked! Restarted and everything's fine. Go figure.

--
Ted Lee
Minnetonka, MN

iMac shuts down for no reason

Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:37:34 -0500

Hi all,

My iMac G5 (10.4.10) keeps on turning off for no reason. I'll walk away
from the computer, come back an hour later, and it'll be shut down. It
almost always happens when I'm not using it, for whatever that's worth.

About 2 years ago, the same computer would shut down every time it went
to sleep. Apple replaced the power supply and that solved the problem.

This time, there doesn't seem to be any connection to sleep mode. I've
left it asleep overnight, and it's still been on in the morning. On the
other hand, I know it's shut down minutes after I walked away from it,
when it was still awake.

I've run disk repair and the hardware test since this started happening,
and both showed no problems.

Does anyone have any thoughts about what this might be? Is there
anything on the computer that I can check for clues (logs or anything
like that)?

Thanks for any help you can offer!
-ez

17" MacBook Pro Battery

Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:07:16 -0500

My 17" MacBook Pro Battery has swelled to over double its original
thickness. The system is 18mths old.
I am running 10.4.10 and have always kept the updates current.
Has anyone else had these problems? Are they the same issues as for the
recall on the 15" machines?

battery problem

Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:19:50 -0500

Hi.

Running Mac OS X 10.4.10 on a MacBook Pro 15" (Intel Core Duo)...

When running off the battery: At 40% remaining, the machine goes
black and shuts down completely. There's no warning or low battery
alert. The computer is *not* asleep; a hard reboot is necessary to
bring it back to life.

We have attempted to condition the battery by putting the Mac into
sleep mode until there's no more juice, and then completely recharging
the battery. Despite this, the problem persists.

Does this mean that we need a new battery? Or is something else going
on here?

Many thanks!

--
Art Werschulz (agw STRUDEL comcast.net)
207 Stoughton Ave Cranford NJ 07016
(908) 272-1146

fan won't stop

Mon, 17 Sep 2007 05:24:30 -0500

My Macbook Pro 2.2 core 2 duo has been great until I did the latest Pro
Application Support update. Now the computer runs generally hotter than
it did before and the fan runs non-stop. Running 10.4.10.

Rebooted, reset the SMU, repaired permissions - no change.

Any suggestions?

--
Bobby Owsinski
Surround Associates
http://www.surroundassociates.com

Author:
The Mixing Engineer's Handbook,
The Recording Engineer's Handbook,
The Mastering Engineer's Handbook
Thomson Course Technologies Publishing

Won't Shut Down! - iMac 800 G3 - TIGER OS X.4

Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:40:40 -0500

Won't Shut Down! - iMac 800 G3 - TIGER OS X.4

Hello,
I have an iMac 800 G3 17" flowerpot.... 768MB RAM... and I just
installed Tiger OS X.4.1 ... and now it won't shut down.

It runs beautifully... but just hangs on shut down.

It will even go to sleep after 15 mins during shut-down, and wake up....
but it never, never fully shuts down... just hangs at the blue-screen.

What can I do to fix this?

TIA!!!!

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External Philips harddisk goes to sleep

Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:13:48 -0500

Hi -

here are 2 external harddisks for backup purposes. The one from
LaCie runs fine but not the one from Philips.

PSyncX works like this:

1) Scanning Destination Directory

2) Scanning Source Item (and here the Philips harddisk goes to sleep)

3) copying items (this doesn't wake up the harddisk)

The Philips customer service is not interested.

I searched the archives but using the keywords

"external harddisk usb sleep"

didn't yield anything useful.

One could build an Applescript to touch the harddisk every minute,
but perhaps there is an easier way?

10.4.9 is told to solve some USB problems - not this one,-)

In the System preferences>Energy saving I didn't mark "Put the harddisk(s)
to sleep when possible"*

*The expression may be not exactly translated from my German system.

Thank you in advance

Peter

SeaMonkey and sleep mode, with OSX

Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:15:19 -0500

preface: I use SeaMonkey (SM), the continuation of the abandoned
Mozilla Suite.

post:
Any Mac OSX SM users have problems with their machine staying asleep?

I rarely ever turn my iMac G5 off, I just put it to sleep. SM is ALWAYS
running. Sometimes the machine wakes back up before I even leave the
room, sometimes I go away for an hour and come back and the machine is
awake with just the screen asleep. This has been going on since maybe
January (I do every OSX update the week it comes out and every SM one also).

I recently started quitting SM, and the problem seems to have gone away.
I know there's only a few OSX guys that read this group, could you try
duplicating my problem, or verifying if you are already "sleep prone
non-quitters"? ;-)

GW
SM 1.1.2 on OSX 10.4.10 on both iMac G5, and PowerBook G4
ps
I used to have a problem where if I clicked "get messages" too soon
after waking the machine up (i.e. network conn not reestablished yet) SM
would crash the whole User Account. I'd have to log-out, log-in. That
has either gone away or I finally learned to count to ten in my head
before clicking anything.

iMac won't sleep

Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:59:42 -0500

Core 2 Duo iMac running 10.4.9

Recently there have been a few occasions when my iMac has not gone
to sleep when it should. I have tried explicitly telling it to
sleep via the Apple menu but it just ignores me. I tried logging
out and telling it to sleep from the login screen but still no
luck. I ended up rebooting to restore correct behaviour.

I suspect it may have something to do with USB. I recently
started using my machine to recharge a mobile phone via USB.
When I plug the phone in nothing mounts, so it seems like there
is nothing to be done before unplugging it, but perhaps it
is leaving the USB driver in a weird state? (I am not
expecting it to sleep while the phone is actually plugged in).

Does anyone have any ideas for further investigation? I know
very little about USB issues.

Ian

--
Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/

Powerbook not waking

Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:35:09 -0500

My friend's Powerbook Titanium (so fairly ancient, and with a dead PRAM
battery) has lately developed a bad habit of not always waking from
sleep.

It will often wake ok, but on other occasions pressing a key turns the
sleep light off, but the screen remains black.

Does anyone know the cause and cure of this. It shouldn't be a PRAM
battery issue, as that is long-standing and this is new. The PB is
running on mains power, and is on 10.4.9

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RE:G5 won't shut down

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:57:49 -0500

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May I express my thanks to Jolly Roger, Tacit, Matt Neuburg, and Paul Nevai.

You all have been very helpful in pointing me toward a resolution of the
problem with my G5 failing to shut down or restart normally.

My drive is the one that came with the G5 but some months ago I had
installed Speed Tools that came with another drive that I purchased from OWC
awhile back. It may be that it is an old version that is incompatible with
Tiger?

In any case, after some difficulty finding all the pieces� of the program
and deleting them, my drive now shuts down and restarts properly.

Generally, I leave my G5 on 24/7 so I seldom have occasion to do a shutdown.
On the few occasions that I had problems earlier this spring, I just assumed
it was an error of some sort that caused it. I was always able to turn it
off and restart manually and just didn�t take the time to check it out until
last week.

While I sometimes enjoy reading the mostly irrelevant banter that goes on
between some who post here regularly, I must say that I believe my
experience here during the past few days is really what the group is all
about.

So thank you all for sharing your wisdom and insights with me!

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G5 won't shut down

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 11:51:09 -0500

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I�m running OS X (10.4.9) on a Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5 with 512 MB DDR2 SDRAM.

Recently it has been failing to shut down completely. It closes all open
windows, ends all running applications, etc. and then just hangs. The only
way I can get it to power off or to restart is to press the power switch.

I thought maybe I�d try repairing the boot disk, but I can�t get the
computer to start up from a CD/DVD. It puts the silver Apple on the screen
along with a few extraneous lines here and there, then just hangs.

Any ideas how to solve my problems? Thanks.

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more wake from sleep weirdness

Fri, 11 May 2007 04:20:03 -0500

I don't think it's dust. My core2duo was sleeping when I left in the
afternoon. I came home around 10:30 at night. Around 11:30, 11:45 I
noticed that the machine was on, although I hadn't gone near it. I
checked the logs and found the following. FYI, BlueTooth and AirPort are
turned off on this machine (10.4.9).

Apr 29 15:25:11 bliss cp: error processing extended attributes:
Operation not permitted
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: System Sleep
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss configd[35]: AppleTalk shutdown
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: Enabling XMM register save/restore and
SSE/SSE2 opcodes
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: Started CPU 01
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]:
IOBluetoothHCIController::restartShutdownWL this is a wake from sleep
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: System Wake
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: USB caused wake event (EHCI)
Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: IOBluetoothHCIController::terminateWL
.. done
Apr 29 23:09:34 bliss kernel[0]: AppleYukon - en0 link active, 100-Mbit,
full duplex, symmetric flow control enabled
Apr 29 23:09:40 bliss configd[35]: AppleTalk shutdown complete
Apr 29 23:09:40 bliss configd[35]: AppleTalk startup
Apr 29 23:09:40 bliss kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::probe:
Apr 29 23:09:40 bliss kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::start before
command
Apr 29 23:09:41 bliss kernel[0]: CSRHIDTransitionDriver::stop
Apr 29 23:09:42 bliss kernel[0]: IOBluetoothHCIController::start Idle
Timer Stopped
Apr 29 23:09:42 bliss kernel[0]: Registering For 802.11 Events
Apr 29 23:09:42 bliss kernel[0]: [HCIController][setupHardware] AFH Is
Supported
Apr 29 23:09:46 bliss configd[35]: AppleTalk startup complete
Apr 30 09:24:19 bliss kernel[0]: System Sleep

See the line that begins:IOBluetoothHCIController::restartShutdownWL
this is a wake from sleep.

What's that about? I'm beginning to suspect some randome cellphone
walk-by as the culprit.

Closing MacBook Pro Lid w/o it Sleeping

Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:14:37 -0500

Is there a way I can configure the Macbook Pro to stay running when i close
the lid? I have an old windows laptop that has an option in the system
preferences, but i can't find anything like this on the macbook pro.. is
there a third party program that lets you do this with the mac or is there
an option in the system preferences i missed. If it make a difference i have
my OS X updated to 10.4.9.
Thanks,
-Adam
adam79@toast.net

Sleep problems? -- Maybe

Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:20:06 -0500

On 4/26/07 1:58 PM, in article 1hx6log.25tntkqy3432N%massello@newsguy.com,
"Neill Massello" <massello@newsguy.com> wrote:

> Salmon Egg <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I have more information on my sleep problem on my G4 running 10.4.9.
>>
>> I try putting my computer to sleep in the following ways.
>>
>> 1. I select Sleep from the Apple menu.
>> 2. I press the Power button momentarily on the front of the Mac.
>> 3. From the log-in window during startup, I press the back arrow and select
>> Sleep
>>
>> In every case, the cursor disappears, the keyboard stops functioning. I have
>> to reboot in order to get going again. The screen looks the same as before
>> the sleep attempt except for the lack of a cursor. My optical mouse stays
>> lit. The screen does not go into the low power mode. I still have to see if
>> the Energy Saver will kick in under those circumstances if I wait long
>> enough.
>>
>> If I let the Energy Saver kick in, the screen goes dark. Waking up from that
>> state seems to work OK.
>>
>> I have booted from a version of 10.3 on a different drive. The same problem
>> occurs.
>>
>> I have used Disk Warrior and other techniques to purge my drives of errors.
>> I now get a clean bill of health. I have reinstalled 10.4.9. Nothing helps.
>> I will try removing everything from my startup folder.
>>
>> I cannot see how reformatting my main drive and reinstalling the system will
>> help under these circumstances. Can it be a hardware failure somewhere?
>
> Your Mac is crashing when attempting to go into deep sleep. The usual
> suspects are non-Apple PCI cards or USB devices. The problem can appear
> and disappear depending on the drivers installed in
> /System/Library/Extensions, and that may be why this started after an OS
> update.
>
>
>> What now?
>
> Remove any non-Apple adapter cards or USB devices and see if the G4 will
> go into deep sleep without crashing after a restart. If it does, you
> have a compatibility problem with at least one of those devices and
> might want to try installing the older version of the relevant driver
> file.
>
This response is truly prescient but too late for me.

Today I went to the Genius Bar at an Apple store in Manhattan Beach. The
tech started my computer while zapping the PRAM. He also reset the Power
Management Unit (PMU). Everything worked just fine at the store. The cursor
did not disappear. The computer went to sleep and I could wake it up just as
it was supposed to work.

When I got home, the old problem showed up. I decided to disconnect all the
cables and put them in one by one after zapping PRAM and PMU. Everything
worked until I plugged in my Brother MFC-8640D into a PCI USB port. The
disappearing cursor problem showed up again. When I switched it to a
built-in USB port, I had no problems.

What I think I had done was to move the MFC connection to a PSI port. My
motivation was that I would use the PCI ports for connections to devices
that did not have to be active during boot or log-in time. The keyboard and
mouse have to be active during this time. The MFC does not have to be active
then, so I thought it would be safe to make the change. I was wrong.

Bill
-- Fermez le Bush--about two years to go.

Automatic switch off

Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:36:51 -0500

My computer has started to switch off or reboot automatically a few
days ago. I haven't installed anything new. I've run a memory test and
it's not a memory problem. Any ideas what could be causing this? I'm
on an iMac G5, OSX 10.4.9.

Thanks in advance,

MV

Sleep/Wakeup problems?

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:27:17 -0500

I am using a late G4 desktop running 10.4.9. It happens in several ways.

One way is that I put my computer to sleep pressing the power button once
(It is set up to do so). I hear a click from the computer (relay?) as if it
goes to sleep, but the screen stays illuminated. My cursor disappears. I
cannot wake up the computer by pressing a key.

I will try something else, but I want to send this cry for help first.

I am thinking that I might have to reinstall the system because some files
got damaged.

Bill

Can't shutdown. Won't shutdown.

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:39:22 -0500

My Mac Mini, version OSX 10.4.9, refuses to shut down correctly. The monitor
displays a grey screen telling me I must switch off the Mini using the power
button. I humbly obey but, when I switch on again, an annoying message tells
me that the damned thing shut down unexpectedly. A minor and trivial niggle,
I'm sure, but is there anything I can do to sort it?

wake from sleep weirdness (10.4.9)

Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:25:24 -0500

this is odd. I have an iMac core2duo, 10.4.9. I put the computer to
sleep manually at night and wake it in the morning with a tap to the
spacebar. I've done this with all my Macs for the past three years. This
morning when I woke up the Mac was asleep, however, around 9:37
(according to the system.log) the Mac woke from sleep without my
pressing anything. Anyone know how that can happen.

The only thing that happened around that time was a phone call I
received that went to my answering machine and the caller hung up before
leaving a message. Most likely a telemarketer.

Remote wake? Gremlins?

10.4.9 broke sleep

Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:17:03 -0500

I always used to use Cmd-opt-eject to sleep my PB, but since 10.4.9 this
doesn't work any more. Am I the only one affected like this?

--
Pd

wake up scheduler

Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:49:11 -0500

Hi everyone
I'm looking for some way to wake my Mac (10.4.9) up at the time and date
I want it to. I have a program that makes last second bids on eBay for
me but if my Mac is asleep then the bid won't happen. Anyone have a
solution? I can use the energy saver preferences but that isn't
convenient at times.

Peter

Keyboard shortcut for Shut Down or Restart?

Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:43:55 -0500

In article <barmar-D8CAC3.20405919032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> Did you install the 10.4.9 update that came out last week?
>
> Since this update you have to hold the key down for several seconds.
> They added the delay because people were ejecting CDs and DVDs when they
> hit the key accidentally.
>

That was certainly true here. As a result I'd got into the habit of
leaving the CD tray open when not in use.

--
Paul Sture

Keyboard command for sleep

Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:04:34 -0500

For a G3 iMac with 10.4.9: I always used to put the Mac to sleep by
pressing Control-Eject. All of a sudden this shortcut won't work and I
need to choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Why is this? Could I have disabled the command somehow? Is it a result
of installing various updates to the system?

Thanks,

Alan

How to stop start up items automatically?

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:56:17 -0500

--
Hi All

I have setup a profile to run my back ups from. running OSX 10.4.9 backing up
to external firewire using SuperDuper. I have the system scheduled to start
up on sundays,�SuperDuper to run and shot down the system. Is there a way to
run some kind of script or script and hook so that profile and only that
profile start up without running the start up items?.... I'm fairly new to
Mac and have never worked with scripts and hooks.. but by what I've read so
far it seems the way to go. but have no idea in where to start..�
So if some one can give some directions or point in the right direction it
will be greatly appreciated.�

***In2Ndo***

UPS + 10.4

Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:39:17 -0500

Hi, Can anyone recommend a brand of Uninterruptible power supply that
works well with OSX 10.4?
I'm thinking of the ones that have a usb port and software to shut down
the mac cleanly if the UPS kicks in.
Arthur

Automatically preventing start up items in auto login??

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:47:19 -0500

...

Hi All.

Is there a way (liket a start up script) to have the profile that is
auto logging in start in... I think is called safe mode like when you
hold the shift key down so the start up items don't start..?? without
having to be at the system to hold down the key?? ..... I'm running
10.4.8

TIA

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What is happening to user start up settings?

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:23:18 -0500

Hello All,

All of the user settings on a mac running os tiger 10.4.3 are being
removed between reboots.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Thank You,

cannot start up MacPro

Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:31:23 -0500

Hve an Intel MacPro. Sys 10.4.8. I had power failure for a few
seconds. Now on start up I get login panel asking for name and
password. It will not accept what I know to be correct. I have run disk
utility from original system CD: no probs found. Have Zapped PRAM. Have
repaired permissions. Have repaired disk: no repairs necessary. Have
run fsck in single user mode. No probs found. Have tried safe boot.
Still i get login panel but no further. Any ideas very welcome.

Eudora prevents Intel Mac Sleep

Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:27:29 -0500

Hi-

I'm using Eudora 6.2.4 (paid) on an Intel 10.4.8. Having Eudora
"running" prevents the computer from sleeping, although the display does.

Quitting Eudora allows sleep. Manually selecting sleep from the Apple
menu works. Eudora only checks for mail every 60 minutes, while the
Energy Saver is set up to sleep in 30 minutes. I've found several
reports of this on other forums (including this occurring with Eudora
set up for only manual checks), but no solutions.

Can anyone assist with a cure or work around?

Thanks in advance.

-- Roger