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Testing Safe Sleep

Message #1 - Posted 2007/08/30 - zoara

I'm about to install some extra RAM in my MBP. I wonder what will happen if I let it safe sleep, pop the battery, install the RAM and turn it back on...

Will it restore the state, but not notice the extra RAM? Will it restore and recognise the RAM?
Will it attempt to restore then crash?
Will it just go through the normal boot sequence?

I'm going to do it in about an hour, so... place your bets... NOW!!!

-zoara-

defecation occurs

Message #2 - Posted 2007/08/30 - Gareth Slee

zoara wrote:

I'm about to install some extra RAM in my MBP. I wonder what will happen if I let it safe sleep, pop the battery, install the RAM and turn it back on...

Will it restore the state, but not notice the extra RAM? Will it restore and recognise the RAM?
Will it attempt to restore then crash?
Will it just go through the normal boot sequence?

I'm going to do it in about an hour, so... place your bets... NOW!!!

-zoara-

Knowing you it'll restore and then burst into flames!!!

Why not just shut it down and then fit the RAM?

Am I the only Gareth Slee?
http://www.garethslee.com

Message #3 - Posted 2007/08/30 - Phillip Walters

Gareth Slee wrote:

zoara wrote:

I'm about to install some extra RAM in my MBP. I wonder what will happen if I let it safe sleep, pop the battery, install the RAM and turn it back on...

Will it restore the state, but not notice the extra RAM? Will it restore and recognise the RAM?
Will it attempt to restore then crash?
Will it just go through the normal boot sequence?

I'm going to do it in about an hour, so... place your bets... NOW!!!

-zoara-

Knowing you it'll restore and then burst into flames!!!

Why not just shut it down and then fit the RAM?

Too easy

Message #4 - Posted 2007/08/30 - zoara

Gareth Slee wrote:

zoara wrote:

I'm about to install some extra RAM in my MBP. I wonder what will happen if I let it safe sleep, pop the battery, install the RAM and turn it back on...

Will it restore the state, but not notice the extra RAM? Will it restore and recognise the RAM?
Will it attempt to restore then crash?
Will it just go through the normal boot sequence?

I'm going to do it in about an hour, so... place your bets... NOW!!!

-zoara-

Knowing you it'll restore and then burst into flames!!!

Heh.

Why not just shut it down and then fit the RAM?

Because I'm curious as to what will happen.

-z-

defecation occurs

Message #5 - Posted 2007/08/30 - Jim

zoara wrote:

Why not just shut it down and then fit the RAM?

Because I'm curious as to what will happen.

Ok, this is a binary situation where the possible outcomes are: nothing bad happens / something bad happens.

In other words, you stand to gain nothing *at best*.
You stand to lose...something.

Just be sure to use all static prevention methods, such as installing the RAM while under 12ft of water[0].

Jim
[0]Don't do this at home, kids.

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Message #6 - Posted 2007/08/30 - zoara

Jim wrote:

zoara wrote:

Why not just shut it down and then fit the RAM?

Because I'm curious as to what will happen.

Ok, this is a binary situation where the possible outcomes are: nothing bad happens / something bad happens.

In other words, you stand to gain nothing *at best*.
You stand to lose...something.

I'll gain the - admittedly useless - knowledge of what happens if you do it. I'm going to plough ahead regardless. Foolhardy, me?

Just be sure to use all static prevention methods, such as installing the RAM while under 12ft of water[0].

Good plan.

-z-

defecation occurs

Message #7 - Posted 2007/08/30 - zoara

zoara wrote:

Jim wrote:

zoara wrote:

Why not just shut it down and then fit the RAM?

Because I'm curious as to what will happen.

Ok, this is a binary situation where the possible outcomes are: nothing bad happens / something bad happens.

In other words, you stand to gain nothing *at best*.
You stand to lose...something.

I'll gain the - admittedly useless - knowledge of what happens if you do it. I'm going to plough ahead regardless. Foolhardy, me?

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM. Admittedly the web shop I got it from didn't specify that it was a DIMM, but I'm still a bloody muppet. *coff*

I did think I'd managed to get a bargain compared to Crucial prices. Oh well, Distance Selling Regulations to the rescue!

-zoara-

defecation occurs

Message #8 - Posted 2007/08/31 - Peter Ceresole

Jim wrote:

Ok, this is a binary situation where the possible outcomes are: nothing bad happens / something bad happens.

Or as in 'curiosity kills Schrodinger's cat'.

Interesting that the real solution was 'none of the above'. --
Peter

Message #9 - Posted 2007/08/31 - Jim

On 2007-08-31, Peter Ceresole wrote:

Jim wrote:

Ok, this is a binary situation where the possible outcomes are: nothing bad happens / something bad happens.

Or as in 'curiosity kills Schrodinger's cat'.

Interesting that the real solution was 'none of the above'.

"What on earth have you done to that cat? It looks half dead!" - Schrodinger's wife.

Jim

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Message #10 - Posted 2007/08/31 - Marco Bakker

zoara wrote:

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM.

It's a sign. It will go wrong. Let someone else install it.

marco

Message #11 - Posted 2007/08/31 - T i m

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:51:25 +0100, zoara wrote:

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM. Admittedly the web shop I got it from didn't specify that it was a DIMM, but I'm still a bloody muppet. *coff*

And why we have professional hardware engineers ...

All the best ..

T i m

Message #12 - Posted 2007/08/31 - David Kennedy

On 31/8/07 08:43, T i m wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:51:25 +0100, zoara wrote:

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM. Admittedly the web shop I got it from didn't specify that it was a DIMM, but I'm still a bloody muppet. *coff*

And why we have professional hardware engineers ...

Who I suppose _never_ make mistakes....

Anyway, if you're so competent then why are you here asking questions ??

Message #13 - Posted 2007/08/31 - zoara

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:43:13 GMT, T i m wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:51:25 +0100, zoara wrote:

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM. Admittedly the web shop I got it from didn't specify that it was a DIMM, but I'm still a bloody muppet. *coff*

And why we have professional hardware engineers ...

Don't be such a cock, T i m. By your definition of 'professional hardware engineer' (ie someone who just puts off-the-shelf parts into a box) then I've been there, done that. In exchange for money, too. I've built my own (Mac) laptops from spares and have done several complete stripdowns and rebuilds on various Macs and PCs (and some dicking about inside Amigas and BBC Micros). It's not hard, and it's not even 'engineering'. I know you think us Mac people (or maybe more specifically, me) are scared to open our machines, but that isn't true; we (generally) just don't find any appeal in the tedium of dicking about plugging bits into boxes.

I obviously know the difference between a DIMM and a SODIMM; it was a simple mistake - I googled for SODIMMs and hit that page; it didn't mention it was a DIMM or a SODIMM, or the number of pins, and the image was ambiguous. I took it to be a SODIMM as that's what I'd been searching for. Schoolboy error.

And in case you haven't gathered, for once you've riled me up. As if you need to be a hardware engineer to buy the right RAM - don't be a cock. I was a muppet, that's all.

-zoara-

You know porn has become an addiction when you are standing at the petrol pump filling your bike and just before you top it off, you pull the hose out and spray it all over the tank.

Message #14 - Posted 2007/08/31 - zoara

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:37:04 +0200, Marco Bakker wrote:

zoara wrote:

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM.

It's a sign. It will go wrong. Let someone else install it.

I'll get Hannah to do it. That'll be a good idea.

-zoara-

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Message #15 - Posted 2007/08/31 - Jim

On 2007-08-31, zoara wrote:

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM.

It's a sign. It will go wrong. Let someone else install it.

I'll get Hannah to do it. That'll be a good idea.

You also need to be surrounded by *at least* four plasma balls. It's a luck thing.

Jim

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Message #16 - Posted 2007/08/31 - Pd

David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamtodaythanksverymuchforthekindofferyoubastard.invalid

wrote:

Anyway, if you're so competent then why are you here asking questions ??

Because well-designed, neat and tidy layouts and efficient use of internal space "scares the crap out of me", in his words.

Pd

Message #17 - Posted 2007/08/31 - T i m

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:44:27 +0100, David Kennedy wrote:

On 31/8/07 08:43, T i m wrote:

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:51:25 +0100, zoara wrote:

Well, I flipped over the MBP, pulled out the battery, opened the RAM slot and then grabbed my shiny new RAM... only to realise I'd bought a DIMM instead of a SODIMM. Admittedly the web shop I got it from didn't specify that it was a DIMM, but I'm still a bloody muppet. *coff*

And why we have professional hardware engineers ...

Who I suppose _never_ make mistakes....

Anyway, if you're so competent then why are you here asking questions ??

Because I can David, and it looks like I've even 'riled Zoara up' .. so it was a job well done, the gullible over sensitive HUMOURLESS muppet (oh and it's what Trolls are supposed to do remember). [1]

Anyway where did I suggest I was a professional hardware engineer, or that I never made mistakes?

It was obvious to most of those who replied that his little plan sounded dangerous and/or foolhardy, especially considering his history 'killing' kit and them giving electric shocks in defense.

All the best ..

T i m

[1] I actually intend it to be humorous, a little hardware <> software engineers joke between him and I, especially as he had confessed to his muppetry here and I don't kick a man when he's down. I didn't put a smiley face because it makes no difference here ...

Message #18 - Posted 2007/08/31 - Peter Ceresole

T i m wrote:

a little hardware <> software
engineers joke between him and I

It's 'him and me', T i m.

Remember where you are. Here, even trolls need to know their grammar. --
Peter

Message #19 - Posted 2007/08/31 - T i m

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:26:40 +0200, Peter Ceresole wrote:

T i m wrote:

a little hardware <> software
engineers joke between him and I

It's 'him and me', T i m.

Remember where you are. Here, even trolls need to know their grammar.

I do, she's at home with Grandad?

Love ..

T i m

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