Blank screen from idling and prompt user to log in when awaken?

I noticed making display (not the computer) sleep and then waking does not ask me to log in like a screen saver would do.
Ant wrote on :

Hello.

I want to stop using updated Mac OS X (e.g., 10.5.8 and I think it happens in 10.7.4 too)'s Flurry screen saver and just let Mac OS X 10.5.8 blank/sleep its screen to save energy, not make Macs (Mac Mini, MacBook Pro, etc.) hot especially in the heat waves, and use less resources. I noticed making display (not the computer) sleep and then waking does not ask me to log in like a screen saver would do. Is there a way to do this for sleeping displays?

Thank you in advance. :)

Michelle Steiner replied on :

In article 1vqdnevQvOF7LG3SnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@redacted.invalid, Ant ant@redacted.invalid wrote:

I noticed making display (not the computer) sleep and then waking does not ask me to log in like a screen saver would do. Is there a way to do this for sleeping displays?

It asks me for a password. Check the settings at General panel of the Security & Privacy module of System Preferences.

Ant replied on :

On 7/1/2012 1:33 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

I noticed making display (not the computer) sleep and then waking does not ask me to log in like a screen saver would do. Is there a way to do this for sleeping displays?

It asks me for a password. Check the settings at General panel of the Security& Privacy module of System Preferences.

That is where I saw it, but it didn't ask me to log in. It will only do it if the computer sleeps. Display's sleep, nope.

Jolly Roger replied on :

In article 6pydnf017NVvJm3SnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@redacted.invalid, Ant ant@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 7/1/2012 1:33 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

I noticed making display (not the computer) sleep and then waking does not ask me to log in like a screen saver would do. Is there a way to do this for sleeping displays?

It asks me for a password. Check the settings at General panel of the Security& Privacy module of System Preferences.

That is where I saw it, but it didn't ask me to log in. It will only do it if the computer sleeps. Display's sleep, nope.

That's not normal.

I have my Mac Pro set to: require a password 5 seconds after sleep or screen saver begins, never sleep the computer, start the screen saver in 5 minutes, and sleep the display in 10 minutes; and it always asks for a password upon waking the screen as long as 5 seconds have gone by since the sleep or screen saver kicked in:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/system_preferences-security_and_privacy. png>

http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/system_preferences-energy_saver.png

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/system_preferences-desktop_and_screen_sa ver.png>

Perhaps you can show us pictures of the Desktop & Screen Saver and the Energy Saver panels on your computer?

Also, can you describe how exactly you are putting the display to sleep?

Michelle Steiner replied on :

In article 6pydnf017NVvJm3SnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@redacted.invalid, Ant ant@redacted.invalid wrote:

I noticed making display (not the computer) sleep and then waking does not ask me to log in like a screen saver would do. Is there a way to do this for sleeping displays?

It asks me for a password. Check the settings at General panel of the Security& Privacy module of System Preferences.

That is where I saw it, but it didn't ask me to log in. It will only do it if the computer sleeps. Display's sleep, nope.

As I said, it asks me for my password after display sleep and screen saver.
I never put the computer to sleep.

Ant replied on :

On 7/1/2012 4:16 PM PT, Jolly Roger typed:

Also, can you describe how exactly you are putting the display to sleep?

I told it to put monitor to sleep after XX minutes. No screen savers and no computer sleep yet. Other people reproduced it in https://discussions.apple.com/message/18800549 ...

Ant replied on :

On 7/1/2012 5:15 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

I noticed making display (not the computer) sleep and then waking does not ask me to log in like a screen saver would do. Is there a way to do this for sleeping displays?

It asks me for a password. Check the settings at General panel of the Security& Privacy module of System Preferences.

That is where I saw it, but it didn't ask me to log in. It will only do it if the computer sleeps. Display's sleep, nope.

As I said, it asks me for my password after display sleep and screen saver. I never put the computer to sleep.

Try without a screen saver. Other people, in https://discussions.apple.com/message/18800549 , reproduced it. ;)

Michelle Steiner replied on :

In article 2dmdnRgAiJMKgmzSnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@redacted.invalid, Ant ant@redacted.invalid wrote:

Try without a screen saver. Other people, in https://discussions.apple.com/message/18800549 , reproduced it. ;)

I see that in that thread you wrote that you're using 10.5.8, which you didn't mention here.

The script mentioned in the thread was written in Feb 2008.

The problem does not happen on my system, 10.7.4.

Ant replied on :

On 7/1/2012 10:10 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

Try without a screen saver. Other people, in https://discussions.apple.com/message/18800549 , reproduced it. ;)

I see that in that thread you wrote that you're using 10.5.8, which you didn't mention here.

The script mentioned in the thread was written in Feb 2008.

The problem does not happen on my system, 10.7.4.

Ah OK. I thought it happened in 10.7.4 as well. I will try it at work too to see.

David Ritz replied on :

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On Sunday, 01 July 2012 23:11 -0700, in article vYmdnS4hJsI2pmzSnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@redacted.invalid, Ant ant@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 7/1/2012 10:10 PM PT, Michelle Steiner typed:

Try without a screen saver. Other people, in https://discussions.apple.com/message/18800549 , reproduced it. ;)

I see that in that thread you wrote that you're using 10.5.8, which you didn't mention here.

The script mentioned in the thread was written in Feb 2008.

The problem does not happen on my system, 10.7.4.

Ah OK. I thought it happened in 10.7.4 as well. I will try it at work too to see.

Ant, out of curiosity, what happens when you set, "Require password for sleep and screen saver," to immediately, then sleep your monitor?
While, like Michelle, I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.4, I believe this option is available under Mac OS X 10.5.8.


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Ant replied on :

On 7/2/2012 5:30 PM PT, David Ritz typed:

Ant, out of curiosity, what happens when you set, "Require password for sleep and screen saver," to immediately, then sleep your monitor? While, like Michelle, I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.4, I believe this option is available under Mac OS X 10.5.8.

http://i.imgur.com/mRDjN.gif from an old 15" Mac Book Pro (2008)'s Mac OS X 10.5.8. I didn't get a chance to look at Mac Mini's Mac OS X 10.7.4 at work today. :(

Ant replied on :

Ant, out of curiosity, what happens when you set, "Require password for sleep and screen saver," to immediately, then sleep your monitor? While, like Michelle, I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.4, I believe this option is available under Mac OS X 10.5.8.

http://i.imgur.com/mRDjN.gif from an old 15" Mac Book Pro (2008)'s Mac OS X 10.5.8. I didn't get a chance to look at Mac Mini's Mac OS X 10.7.4 at work today. :(

I tried it again on my Mac Mini's updated Mac OS X 10.7.4, and it worked correctly. It looks like updated Mac OS X 10.5.8 can't do it the way I want. :(

Jolly Roger replied on :

In article 1bednUyhit74tW7SnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@redacted.invalid, ANTant@redacted.invalid (Ant) wrote:

Ant, out of curiosity, what happens when you set, "Require password for sleep and screen saver," to immediately, then sleep your monitor? While, like Michelle, I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.4, I believe this option is available under Mac OS X 10.5.8.

http://i.imgur.com/mRDjN.gif from an old 15" Mac Book Pro (2008)'s Mac OS X 10.5.8. I didn't get a chance to look at Mac Mini's Mac OS X 10.7.4 at work today. :(

I tried it again on my Mac Mini's updated Mac OS X 10.7.4, and it worked correctly. It looks like updated Mac OS X 10.5.8 can't do it the way I want. :(

Time to upgrade the OS, I guess.

Ant replied on :

Ant, out of curiosity, what happens when you set, "Require password for sleep and screen saver," to immediately, then sleep your monitor? While, like Michelle, I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.4, I believe this option is available under Mac OS X 10.5.8.

http://i.imgur.com/mRDjN.gif from an old 15" Mac Book Pro (2008)'s Mac OS X 10.5.8. I didn't get a chance to look at Mac Mini's Mac OS X 10.7.4 at work today. :(

I tried it again on my Mac Mini's updated Mac OS X 10.7.4, and it worked correctly. It looks like updated Mac OS X 10.5.8 can't do it the way I want. :(

Time to upgrade the OS, I guess.

Yeah, probably will get a new Mac Book Pro since its hardwares are falling part. Hopefully, it can last a few more months. :(

David Empson replied on :

Ant ANTant@redacted.invalid wrote:

Ant, out of curiosity, what happens when you set, "Require password for sleep and screen saver," to immediately, then sleep your monitor? While, like Michelle, I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.4, I believe this option is available under Mac OS X 10.5.8.

http://i.imgur.com/mRDjN.gif from an old 15" Mac Book Pro (2008)'s Mac OS X 10.5.8. I didn't get a chance to look at Mac Mini's Mac OS X 10.7.4 at work today. :(

I tried it again on my Mac Mini's updated Mac OS X 10.7.4, and it worked correctly. It looks like updated Mac OS X 10.5.8 can't do it the way I want. :(

FYI, I was using the "require password for sleep and screen saver" feature in Snow Leopard, and it did work with display sleep.

Assuming the Mac running 10.5.8 has an Intel processor, upgrading to Snow Leopard may be less of a major exercise than upgrading to Lion. If it is PowerPC, then the computer would have to be replaced.

Ant replied on :

On 7/3/2012 5:30 PM PT, David Empson typed:

Ant, out of curiosity, what happens when you set, "Require password for sleep and screen saver," to immediately, then sleep your monitor? While, like Michelle, I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.4, I believe this option is available under Mac OS X 10.5.8.

http://i.imgur.com/mRDjN.gif from an old 15" Mac Book Pro (2008)'s Mac OS X 10.5.8. I didn't get a chance to look at Mac Mini's Mac OS X 10.7.4 at work today. :(

I tried it again on my Mac Mini's updated Mac OS X 10.7.4, and it worked correctly. It looks like updated Mac OS X 10.5.8 can't do it the way I want. :(

FYI, I was using the "require password for sleep and screen saver" feature in Snow Leopard, and it did work with display sleep.

Assuming the Mac running 10.5.8 has an Intel processor, upgrading to Snow Leopard may be less of a major exercise than upgrading to Lion. If it is PowerPC, then the computer would have to be replaced.

It is Intel, but MacBook Pro's hardwares are falling apart. Hopefully, it can last a few more months before getting a new MacBook. :)