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Bus-powered external disks

Message #1 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Chris Ridd

I'm on the look out for a portable disk primarily for use with Time Machine. Apple seems to be selling SmartDisk^WVerbatim FireLite drives for a surprisingly reasonable sum (£89.95 for 160GB), but I've not been able to find out what sort of mechanisms they use (ATA or SATA) or what sort of performance they give.

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must. I was put off by the LaCie "Porsche" drives apparently having plastic cases...

Cheers,

Chris

Message #2 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Ian Robinson

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:24:39 +0000, Chris Ridd wrote (in a previous article):

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

I've got a FireLite FW 120GB drive and a FireLite USB 80GB drive. Both are reasonably fast and just work. The FW one is in work at present as a Time Machine drive for a test MacOS X 10.5 wiki server (so I can't do tests on it).

I've never had issues with the read or write speeds though on either of the drives.

Ian

Ian Robinson, Belfast, UK
<http://www.canicula.com/wp/>

Message #3 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Woody

"Chris Ridd" <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote in message news:5ticfnF1dkgriU1@mid.individual.net...

I'm on the look out for a portable disk primarily for use with Time Machine. Apple seems to be selling SmartDisk^WVerbatim FireLite drives for a surprisingly reasonable sum (£89.95 for 160GB), but I've not been able to find out what sort of mechanisms they use (ATA or SATA) or what sort of performance they give.

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must. I was put off by the LaCie "Porsche" drives apparently having plastic cases...

Have they? the one I have at work seems pretty metal. Although it isn't bus powered

I would be interested though for when I upgrade my mums machine to 10.5. I am using a USB thing from PCWorld, but she needs a firewire one. --
Woody

Message #4 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Steve Firth

Chris Ridd wrote:

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must.

I use "Warp" enclosures from Maplin for 2.5in disks, they have USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces. They work reliably bus powered via Firewire and are a bit hit and miss when used as USB2 buspowered enclosures. If you must use them with USB2 it's best to plug the cable into the computer first, using two USB sockets. The cable supplied has twin plugs for this purpose. Then plug the cable into the drive. If you try to plug the cable into the drive first the current draw as the drive spins up causes problems.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=A58CG

Maplin also claim this 3.5in enclosure is bus powered, I don't believe them.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=45054

Both enclosures are very well made with solid aluminium baseplates and they run cool.

Message #5 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Stimpy

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:24:39 +0000, Chris Ridd wrote

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must. I was put off by the LaCie "Porsche" drives apparently having plastic cases...

The cases of my two LaCie 'Porsche' drives *seem* to be metal - although I guess it might be metal-coated plastic - but they certainly have an 'ingot-like' heft to them

Message #6 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Peter Ceresole

Chris Ridd wrote:

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

Not that recent- some time last year I think. A FL60N that I use for data backup. Bus powered, small light and very portable. Seems to work okay.

Peter

Message #7 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Steve Bell

On 27/12/07 19:24, in article 5ticfnF1dkgriU1@mid.individual.net, Chris Ridd wrote:

I'm on the look out for a portable disk primarily for use with Time Machine. Apple seems to be selling SmartDisk^WVerbatim FireLite drives for a surprisingly reasonable sum (£89.95 for 160GB), but I've not been able to find out what sort of mechanisms they use (ATA or SATA) or what sort of performance they give.

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must. I was put off by the LaCie "Porsche" drives apparently having plastic cases...

Cheers,

Chris

At my last employer I carried an 80 GB Firelite FW drive around with me for 2 years, it had lots of use, no problems. I recently bought a few empty Firelite cases off eBay for myself, used but as new, and today some more for work. I've found them very reliable and durable, and all I've seen used ATA hard disks. Useful when you've got spare drives left over from upgrades. The empty cases were £5.35 each, plus a few quid postage and VAT. New complete with drives they appear very good value for money.

Steve Bell

Message #8 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-27 19:31:14 +0000, Woody said:

Have they? the one I have at work seems pretty metal. Although it isn't bus powered

Maybe it is just the "Mobile" versions. A review from 2004: <http://www.mymac.com/showarticle.php?id=1700>

I would be interested though for when I upgrade my mums machine to 10.5. I am using a USB thing from PCWorld, but she needs a firewire one.

I'd quite like USB as a sort of backup interface, in the vaguest of possibilities that I need it on a machine without FW.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #9 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-27 19:30:10 +0000, Ian Robinson said:

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:24:39 +0000, Chris Ridd wrote (in a previous article):

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

I've got a FireLite FW 120GB drive and a FireLite USB 80GB drive. Both are reasonably fast and just work. The FW one is in work at present as a Time Machine drive for a test MacOS X 10.5 wiki server (so I can't do tests on it).

Ta. I was reasonably impressed with the case Sa and Rog lent me, except it could see 120-ish MB of the disk. I'd assume the 160GB models don't have that limitation ;-)

I've never had issues with the read or write speeds though on either of the drives.

Good to know, thanks.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #10 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-27 19:45:31 +0000, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must.

I use "Warp" enclosures from Maplin for 2.5in disks, they have USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces. They work reliably bus powered via Firewire and

I hadn't thought of Maplins - good suggestion.

Both enclosures are very well made with solid aluminium baseplates and they run cool.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #11 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Woody

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-27 19:31:14 +0000, Woody said:

Have they? the one I have at work seems pretty metal. Although it isn't bus powered

Maybe it is just the "Mobile" versions. A review from 2004: <http://www.mymac.com/showarticle.php?id=1700>

I would be interested though for when I upgrade my mums machine to 10.5. I am using a USB thing from PCWorld, but she needs a firewire one.

I'd quite like USB as a sort of backup interface, in the vaguest of possibilities that I need it on a machine without FW.

For mums one firewire is all it needs, and all it will ever use. I don't mind if it has USB too, but it isn't worth paying extra for.

Woody

www.alienrat.com

Message #12 - Posted 2007/12/27 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-27 20:52:56 +0000, Steve Bell said:

At my last employer I carried an 80 GB Firelite FW drive around with me for 2 years, it had lots of use, no problems. I recently bought a few empty Firelite cases off eBay for myself, used but as new, and today some more for work. I've found them very reliable and durable, and all I've seen used ATA hard disks. Useful when you've got spare drives left over from upgrades. The empty cases were £5.35 each, plus a few quid postage and VAT. New complete with drives they appear very good value for money.

That's an interesting option. The ebay seller doesn't give any details on the bridge board (ie can disks > 120MB work) and also a quick calculation oddly doesn't make it very much cheaper (ie £3) than the ones the Apple store was selling.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #13 - Posted 2007/12/27 - zoara

Woody wrote:

"Chris Ridd" <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote in message news:5ticfnF1dkgriU1@mid.individual.net...

I'm on the look out for a portable disk primarily for use with Time Machine. Apple seems to be selling SmartDisk^WVerbatim FireLite drives for a surprisingly reasonable sum (£89.95 for 160GB), but I've not been able to find out what sort of mechanisms they use (ATA or SATA) or what sort of performance they give.

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must. I was put off by the LaCie "Porsche" drives apparently having plastic cases...

Have they? the one I have at work seems pretty metal. Although it isn't bus powered

The desktop Porsches have a brushed-metal front and a faux-metal plastic body. They can also be quite noisy, but when idle (low-frequency drone) and when accessing (loud clicking). Not always (and apparently not all of them) but sometimes. Insanely cheap though.

I don't know about the portable ones.

-z-

No 3G. Fewer megapixels than an N95. Lame.

Message #14 - Posted 2007/12/28 - Pd

zoara wrote:

The desktop Porsches have a brushed-metal front and a faux-metal plastic body. They can also be quite noisy, but when idle (low-frequency drone) and when accessing (loud clicking). Not always (and apparently not all of them) but sometimes. Insanely cheap though.

£66 for 500GB from Amazon at the moment. Like you say, insanely cheap.

Pd

Message #15 - Posted 2007/12/28 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-28 00:19:43 +0000, Pd said:

zoara wrote:

The desktop Porsches have a brushed-metal front and a faux-metal plastic body. They can also be quite noisy, but when idle (low-frequency drone) and when accessing (loud clicking). Not always (and apparently not all of them) but sometimes. Insanely cheap though.

£66 for 500GB from Amazon at the moment. Like you say, insanely cheap.

Yes, but with only a USB interface. LaCie do charge you a hefty premium for adding a FW interface to a drive.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #16 - Posted 2007/12/28 - SM

Chris Ridd wrote:

I use "Warp" enclosures from Maplin for 2.5in disks, they have USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces. They work reliably bus powered via Firewire and

I hadn't thought of Maplins - good suggestion.

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

Stuart

cut that out to reply

Message #17 - Posted 2007/12/28 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-28 17:31:55 +0000, SM said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

I use "Warp" enclosures from Maplin for 2.5in disks, they have USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces. They work reliably bus powered via Firewire and

I hadn't thought of Maplins - good suggestion.

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

Span appear to sell an empty Macpower case for 2.5" SATA drives. £74 (inc VAT) though...

<http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8527>

Wiebetech also sell empty 2.5" SATA cases, but for even more - £86 (inc VAT).

Nice, but I think I'd spend the same amount and get a disk included.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #18 - Posted 2007/12/28 - Jaimie Vandenbergh

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:31:55 +0000, SM wrote:

Chris Ridd wrote:

I use "Warp" enclosures from Maplin for 2.5in disks, they have USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces. They work reliably bus powered via Firewire and

I hadn't thought of Maplins - good suggestion.

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

If you know of any with a SATA disk installed, that would be very useful info!

Cheers - Jaimie

Actually, the Singularity seems rather useful in the entire work avoidance field. "I _could_ write up that report now but if I put it off, I may well become a weakly godlike entity, at which point not only will I be able to type faster but my comments will be more on-target." - James Nicoll

Message #19 - Posted 2007/12/28 - Jon B

zoara wrote:

Woody wrote:

"Chris Ridd" <chrisridd@mac.com> wrote in message news:5ticfnF1dkgriU1@mid.individual.net...

I'm on the look out for a portable disk primarily for use with Time Machine. Apple seems to be selling SmartDisk^WVerbatim FireLite drives for a surprisingly reasonable sum (£89.95 for 160GB), but I've not been able to find out what sort of mechanisms they use (ATA or SATA) or what sort of performance they give.

Does anyone here have a recent FireLite drive that they'd share their experiences of?

Or does anyone have recommendations for other enclosures? Bus-powered Firewire support is a must. I was put off by the LaCie "Porsche" drives apparently having plastic cases...

Have they? the one I have at work seems pretty metal. Although it isn't bus powered

The desktop Porsches have a brushed-metal front and a faux-metal plastic body. They can also be quite noisy, but when idle (low-frequency drone) and when accessing (loud clicking). Not always (and apparently not all of them) but sometimes. Insanely cheap though.

I don't know about the portable ones.

Portable ones are the same. I've got an 80gb USB/FW version at the office. Came in a nice soft case, works fine, it's survived the drop test on at least one occasion.

Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.

Message #20 - Posted 2007/12/28 - SM

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-28 17:31:55 +0000, SM said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

I use "Warp" enclosures from Maplin for 2.5in disks, they have USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces. They work reliably bus powered via Firewire and

I hadn't thought of Maplins - good suggestion.

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

Span appear to sell an empty Macpower case for 2.5" SATA drives. £74 (inc VAT) though...

<http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8527>

FW 800! They make a FW 400 case, but I can't find any for sale:

<http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd2/daisycutter/dcsata_400plus>

Wiebetech also sell empty 2.5" SATA cases, but for even more - £86 (inc VAT).

Nice, but I think I'd spend the same amount and get a disk included.

Thanks for the info but as you say, a bit pricey.

Stuart

cut that out to reply

Message #21 - Posted 2007/12/28 - SM

Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

If you know of any with a SATA disk installed, that would be very useful info!

I had it in mind that the Freecom 2.5" Mobile Drive PRO had a SATA disk but now I look it might not be:

<http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=3528&CatID=8020&sCatID=1 146257&ssCatID=1147436>

Data sheet: <http://www.freecom.com/objects/00011137.pdf>

Stuart

cut that out to reply

Message #22 - Posted 2007/12/28 - Jaimie Vandenbergh

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:29:14 +0000, SM wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

If you know of any with a SATA disk installed, that would be very useful info!

I had it in mind that the Freecom 2.5" Mobile Drive PRO had a SATA disk but now I look it might not be:

<http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=3528&CatID=8020&sCatID=1 146257&ssCatID=1147436>

Data sheet: <http://www.freecom.com/objects/00011137.pdf>

No evidence either way. It's a shame you can get 250gig 2.5" ATA drives now (apologies to all those who need 'em!)...

There's a 300gig external there, which I think has to be SATA, but it's USB only so that's no use. Grrr.

Cheers - Jaimie

"I didn't do much of that sleep thing last night, so I only hope the above makes some sense." (A generically applicable wish, but this one by W Hyde in rasfw)

Message #23 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-28 20:29:13 +0000, SM said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-28 17:31:55 +0000, SM said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

I use "Warp" enclosures from Maplin for 2.5in disks, they have USB2 and Firewire 400 interfaces. They work reliably bus powered via Firewire and

I hadn't thought of Maplins - good suggestion.

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

Span appear to sell an empty Macpower case for 2.5" SATA drives. £74 (inc VAT) though...

<http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8527>

FW 800! They make a FW 400 case, but I can't find any for sale:

Yes, although FW400-800 adaptor cables exist.

<http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd2/daisycutter/dcsata_400plus>

Maybe it is worth pinging Span, as they seem to have lots of other Macpower kit.

It is a shame that Apple don't include eSATA interfaces (they're not a bus like FW, so you'd need lots) as cases with eSATA interfaces are about £30 cheaper than ones with FW.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #24 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-28 23:51:19 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:29:14 +0000, SM wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

Unfortunately the above's only for 2.5" IDE drives - still not been able to find a FW enclosure for 2.5" SATA drives except ones with installed drives.

If you know of any with a SATA disk installed, that would be very useful info!

I had it in mind that the Freecom 2.5" Mobile Drive PRO had a SATA disk but now I look it might not be:

<http://www.freecom.com/ecproduct_detail.asp?ID=3528&CatID=8020&sCatID=1 146257&ssCatID=1147436>

Data sheet: <http://www.freecom.com/objects/00011137.pdf>

No evidence either way. It's a shame you can get 250gig 2.5" ATA drives now (apologies to all those who need 'em!)...

Yep :-)

There's a 300gig external there, which I think has to be SATA, but it's USB only so that's no use. Grrr.

What *is* the point of just bunging on a USB interface? People don't *really* muddle through with USB to external disks do they?

Cheers,

Chris

Message #25 - Posted 2007/12/29 - SM

Chris Ridd wrote:

Span appear to sell an empty Macpower case for 2.5" SATA drives. £74 (inc VAT) though...

<http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8527>

FW 800! They make a FW 400 case, but I can't find any for sale:

Yes, although FW400-800 adaptor cables exist.

I was thinking the FW 400 case might be cheaper. I wonder if you'd see much difference between 800 & 400 with a 2.5" drive.

<http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/hdd2/daisycutter/dcsata_400plus>

Maybe it is worth pinging Span, as they seem to have lots of other Macpower kit.

It is a shame that Apple don't include eSATA interfaces (they're not a bus like FW, so you'd need lots) as cases with eSATA interfaces are about £30 cheaper than ones with FW.

Um, save £30 on the external and put it towards a new laptop ;-)

Stuart

cut that out to reply

Message #26 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-29 10:27:10 +0000, SM said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

Span appear to sell an empty Macpower case for 2.5" SATA drives. £74 (inc VAT) though...

<http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8527>

FW 800! They make a FW 400 case, but I can't find any for sale:

Yes, although FW400-800 adaptor cables exist.

I was thinking the FW 400 case might be cheaper. I wonder if you'd see much difference between 800 & 400 with a 2.5" drive.

I expect not. If you've got two drives, or faster 3.5" ones then I'd expect you might.

Um, save £30 on the external and put it towards a new laptop ;-)

Or just say stuff it, and get the SmartDisk...

Cheers,

Chris

Message #27 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Jaimie Vandenbergh

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:27:10 +0000, SM wrote:

Chris Ridd wrote:

Span appear to sell an empty Macpower case for 2.5" SATA drives. £74 (inc VAT) though...

<http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8527>

FW 800! They make a FW 400 case, but I can't find any for sale:

Yes, although FW400-800 adaptor cables exist.

I was thinking the FW 400 case might be cheaper. I wonder if you'd see much difference between 800 & 400 with a 2.5" drive.

None at all, 2.5" drives are currently way under the 50megabytes/sec limit of firewire 400.

Cheers - aimie

L33t 5p3@|< 1s f0R R3t4rds

Message #28 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-29 11:15:19 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:27:10 +0000, SM wrote:

Chris Ridd wrote:

Span appear to sell an empty Macpower case for 2.5" SATA drives. £74 (inc VAT) though...

<http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8527>

FW 800! They make a FW 400 case, but I can't find any for sale:

Yes, although FW400-800 adaptor cables exist.

I was thinking the FW 400 case might be cheaper. I wonder if you'd see much difference between 800 & 400 with a 2.5" drive.

None at all, 2.5" drives are currently way under the 50megabytes/sec limit of firewire 400.

I suppose if you're going to daisy-chain extra things with the drive, having FW800 is going to be more useful. But then you could just stick the FW400 devices at the end of the chain instead.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #29 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Stimpy

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:28:13 +0000, Chris Ridd wrote

What *is* the point of just bunging on a USB interface? People don't *really* muddle through with USB to external disks do they?

I have two 500gb external disks connected by USB and it all works fine - fast *enough* for the purposes for which they're used. Certainly no muddling through needed

Message #30 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Ian McCall

On 2007-12-29 09:28:13 +0000, Chris Ridd said:

What *is* the point of just bunging on a USB interface? People don't *really* muddle through with USB to external disks do they?

I'd imagine 90%+ of the computing world does, yes. No Firewire on most PCs.

Cheers,
Ian

Message #31 - Posted 2007/12/29 - zoara

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-28 23:51:19 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

There's a 300gig external there, which I think has to be SATA, but it's USB only so that's no use. Grrr.

What *is* the point of just bunging on a USB interface? People don't *really* muddle through with USB to external disks do they?

Yes, they do. A lot.

A lot of PC users I have met seem unaware that there is even an alternative. They buy the cheapest out there and plug it into the hole that it fits into. No more thought given to it than that.

-z-

No 3G. Fewer megapixels than an N95. Lame.

Message #32 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-29 17:31:29 +0000, zoara said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-28 23:51:19 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

There's a 300gig external there, which I think has to be SATA, but it's USB only so that's no use. Grrr.

What *is* the point of just bunging on a USB interface? People don't *really* muddle through with USB to external disks do they?

Yes, they do. A lot.

Hmph.

A lot of PC users I have met seem unaware that there is even an alternative. They buy the cheapest out there and plug it into the hole that it fits into. No more thought given to it than that.

That's presumably the same lack of thought that results in most people using Windows.

Still, there's some hope that USB 3 will incorporate some of the good bits of FW now that Apple and Intel are best buddies and collaborating (to some degree) on it. One interface to rule them all...

Cheers,

Chris

Message #33 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Sara Kirk

Previously, Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-29 17:31:29 +0000, zoara said:

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-28 23:51:19 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

There's a 300gig external there, which I think has to be SATA, but it's USB only so that's no use. Grrr.

What *is* the point of just bunging on a USB interface? People don't *really* muddle through with USB to external disks do they?

Yes, they do. A lot.

Hmph.

A lot of PC users I have met seem unaware that there is even an alternative. They buy the cheapest out there and plug it into the hole that it fits into. No more thought given to it than that.

That's presumably the same lack of thought that results in most people using Windows.

Still, there's some hope that USB 3 will incorporate some of the good bits of FW now that Apple and Intel are best buddies and collaborating (to some degree) on it. One interface to rule them all...

Rog got a real cheapie case/disk combo for his Mum a little while ago. I think was from SVP. The case was on special offer when you bought the disk. The whole thing cost about £40.

Can't find the same one now, but how about this:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_25_mobile_drive_pro_(usb20_and_firewire )_4811>

Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

Message #34 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Sara Kirk

Previously, Sara Kirk wrote:

Can't find the same one now, but how about this:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_25_mobile_drive_pro_(usb20_and_firewire )_4811>

Or even this one:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_toughdrive_pro_u_and_f_25_mobile_hard_d rive_44128>

Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

Message #35 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-29 19:23:12 +0000, Sara Kirk said:

Rog got a real cheapie case/disk combo for his Mum a little while ago. I think was from SVP. The case was on special offer when you bought the disk. The whole thing cost about £40.

Can't find the same one now, but how about this:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_25_mobile_drive_pro_(usb20_and_firewire )_4811>

Not only FW ("Pro" version FFS), but USB as well. Nice one, someone mentioned Freecom drives a bit earlier too.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #36 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-12-29 19:25:43 +0000, Sara Kirk said:

Previously, Sara Kirk wrote:

Can't find the same one now, but how about this:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_25_mobile_drive_pro_(usb20_and_firewire )_4811>

Or even this one:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_toughdrive_pro_u_and_f_25_mobile_hard_d rive_44128>

Blimey, SATA too. I bow to your Google-fu.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #37 - Posted 2007/12/29 - SM

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-29 19:23:12 +0000, Sara Kirk said:

Rog got a real cheapie case/disk combo for his Mum a little while ago. I think was from SVP. The case was on special offer when you bought the disk. The whole thing cost about £40.

Can't find the same one now, but how about this:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_25_mobile_drive_pro_(usb20_and_firewire )_4811>

Not only FW ("Pro" version FFS), but USB as well. Nice one, someone mentioned Freecom drives a bit earlier too.

That was me.

I emailed SVP a while back asking whether they could supply the Freecom (or other) 2.5" SATA FW enclosures without a disk - no reply.

Stuart

cut that out to reply

Message #38 - Posted 2007/12/29 - SM

Sara Kirk wrote:

Previously, Sara Kirk wrote:

Can't find the same one now, but how about this:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_25_mobile_drive_pro_(usb20_and_firewire )_4811>

Or even this one:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_toughdrive_pro_u_and_f_25_mobile_hard_d rive_44128>

That's a new one at SVP - not sure if I like the stubby FireWire cable/stalk.

Stuart

cut that out to reply

Message #39 - Posted 2007/12/29 - Sara Kirk

Previously, Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2007-12-29 19:25:43 +0000, Sara Kirk said:

Previously, Sara Kirk wrote:

Can't find the same one now, but how about this:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_25_mobile_drive_pro_(usb20_and_firewire )_4811>

Or even this one:
<http://svp.co.uk/product/freecom_toughdrive_pro_u_and_f_25_mobile_hard_d rive_44128>

Blimey, SATA too. I bow to your Google-fu.

Cheers,

Chris

No Google-fu needed - I just went straight to SVP. They do have some good kit there sometimes.

Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

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