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Message #1 - Posted 2005/09/28 - Gareth Slee

Anyone else tried this app?
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

"Stupid Gravity!"
Homer Simpson falling from a treehouse

Message #2 - Posted 2005/09/28 - Roger Merriman

Gareth Slee wrote:

Anyone else tried this app?
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

Message #3 - Posted 2005/09/28 - Gareth Slee

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

Anyone else tried this app?
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use!
214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

Gareth

"Stupid Gravity!"
Homer Simpson falling from a treehouse

Message #4 - Posted 2005/09/28 - Woody

Gareth Slee wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

Anyone else tried this app?
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use!
214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

I am on 17 cycles now.

Woody

www.alienrat.com

Message #5 - Posted 2005/09/28 - SteveH

Woody wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

Anyone else tried this app?
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use!
214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

I am on 17 cycles now.

7 cycles. Reports my battery as being 9 months old, which suggests this machine sat in a warehouse for a few months before I bought it. --
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 2.0 TSpark Lusso - Passat 1.8 Turbo SE - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Message #6 - Posted 2005/09/28 - Hugh Chaloner

Gareth Slee wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

Message #7 - Posted 2005/09/29 - Ryan Callaghan

SteveH wrote:

Woody wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

Anyone else tried this app?
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use!
214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

I am on 17 cycles now.

7 cycles. Reports my battery as being 9 months old, which suggests this machine sat in a warehouse for a few months before I bought it.

of the 3 batteries I own:

39 loadcycles, 100% - this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably. this is from a 500MHz G3 iBook, not bad for a freebie. total capacity 4000mAh.

316 loadcycles, 86% - this one belongs with my iBook g3/800 should be 4200mAh.

302 loadcycles, 75% - out of an iBook G4/700, should be 4400mAh.

Interesting, the moral of this seems to be, don't chuck your old batteries if they appear dead, and also that intelligent batteries really aren't that intelligent (As I learned with an old 500 series PowerBook and some battery utilities, got one battery from about 2 minutes to a usable, (sorta) 45 on a good day with repeated resets and charge-discharge cycles, sadly the other had a shorted cell, that wasn't responsive to gentle dropping, and I didn't really want to try the charged bigass capacitor fix.)

Ryan Callaghan
Email: callagrm<at>aston<dot>ac<dot>uk ICQ: 20957015

Message #8 - Posted 2005/09/29 - Roger Merriman

Hugh Chaloner wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Message #9 - Posted 2005/09/29 - Roger Merriman

Gareth Slee wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

Anyone else tried this app?
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use!
214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

Gareth

its holding at 82% capacity though most anoying is the lack of warning on forced sleep. i suspect due to its age and use that it will get worse untill it has to be replaced.

Roger

Message #10 - Posted 2005/09/29 - zoara

Ryan Callaghan wrote:

this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably.

Oooh, how please? I have a 'dead' battery that was killed by 10.3.1 or something like that. I think I still have it.

-z-

6th June 2005: Hell freezes over.
2nd August 2005: Hell freezes over *again*.

Message #11 - Posted 2005/09/29 - Ryan Callaghan

zoara wrote:

Ryan Callaghan wrote:

this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably.

Oooh, how please? I have a 'dead' battery that was killed by 10.3.1 or something like that. I think I still have it.

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Ryan Callaghan
Email: callagrm<at>aston<dot>ac<dot>uk ICQ: 20957015

Message #12 - Posted 2005/09/29 - Giles

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Hugh Chaloner wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Hmm. 30 months and 408 cycles. The battery still has 74%, although it took a rundown and recharge cycle for that to show up accurately. But the 'book isn't carted out daily.

Giles

Message #13 - Posted 2005/09/30 - Roger Merriman

Giles wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Hugh Chaloner wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Hmm. 30 months and 408 cycles. The battery still has 74%, although it took a rundown and recharge cycle for that to show up accurately. But the 'book isn't carted out daily.

Giles

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good? though it looses charge over night and if its below 50% it will not wake the next mourning, and it tends to konk out at around 20% now. still it still lasts 2hrs ish so not bad i guess.

Roger

Message #14 - Posted 2005/09/30 - zoara

Ryan Callaghan wrote:

zoara wrote:

Ryan Callaghan wrote:

this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably.

Oooh, how please? I have a 'dead' battery that was killed by 10.3.1 or something like that. I think I still have it.

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Bingo. Will seek the battery out and jam a staple into it, see what happens. Will report back if I remember.

-z-

6th June 2005: Hell freezes over.
2nd August 2005: Hell freezes over *again*.

Message #15 - Posted 2005/09/30 - Tim Auton

NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk (Roger Merriman) wrote:
[iBatteries]

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good? though it looses charge over night and if its below 50% it will not wake the next mourning, and it tends to konk out at around 20% now. still it still lasts 2hrs ish so not bad i guess.

Mine was doing that till I reset the pram and nvram.

Tim

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Message #16 - Posted 2005/09/30 - Peter Ceresole

Roger Merriman wrote:

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good?

I don't think so. Lithium batteries are limited in the number of cycles they can do- it's one of the things that eventually kills them. --
Peter

Message #17 - Posted 2005/09/30 - Roger Merriman

Peter Ceresole wrote:

Roger Merriman wrote:

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good?

I don't think so. Lithium batteries are limited in the number of cycles they can do- it's one of the things that eventually kills them.

as will age. if a battery sits on a shelf under use will cause it to degrade. in other words the battery will die it just depends when.

al book batties seem to get more tempermenal with age than the tit books ones. why this is so i don't know.

Roger

Message #18 - Posted 2005/09/30 - Roger Merriman

Tim Auton wrote:

NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk (Roger Merriman) wrote: [iBatteries]

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good? though it looses charge over night and if its below 50% it will not wake the next mourning, and it tends to konk out at around 20% now. still it still lasts 2hrs ish so not bad i guess.

Mine was doing that till I reset the pram and nvram.

Tim

been done to no aviel. that used to work but not any more.

the battery is just well used.

Roger

Message #19 - Posted 2005/10/01 - PeterD

Peter Ceresole wrote:

Roger Merriman wrote:

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good?

I don't think so. Lithium batteries are limited in the number of cycles they can do- it's one of the things that eventually kills them.

Finally downloaded the thing on to my old TiBook, which is running Tiger just for fun:
Age of your Mac: 56 Months
Current capacity: 2617 mAh (72%)
Original capacity: 3600 mAh

Not bad at all - fits with my 3+ hours battery time.

Pd

Message #20 - Posted 2005/10/02 - D.M. Procida

zoara wrote:

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Bingo. Will seek the battery out and jam a staple into it, see what happens. Will report back if I remember.

If you live.

Daniele

Message #21 - Posted 2005/10/03 - zoara

D.M. Procida wrote:

zoara wrote:

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Bingo. Will seek the battery out and jam a staple into it, see what happens. Will report back if I remember.

If you live.

I'll do it with my teeth, just to add to the thrill.

Can't find the damn battery anyway.

-z-

6th June 2005: Hell freezes over.
2nd August 2005: Hell freezes over *again*.

Message #22 - Posted 2005/10/13 - A. Peter Hayes

Giles wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Hugh Chaloner wrote:

Gareth Slee wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Hmm. 30 months and 408 cycles. The battery still has 74%, although it took a rundown and recharge cycle for that to show up accurately. But the 'book isn't carted out daily.

Giles

Interesting, or spooky, I just got back from buying a new battery, as the original one is not lasting as long as it did, to find this thread. Old battery shows as originally 4200 mAh now down to 2950 after 204 load cycles. I wonder if it has to be totally run down to count as a cycle? I've had the original battery for 30+ months of daily usage; mainly online via the airport, mix of battery and mains so it got a lot of small top-ups. The new battery shows as 4400 mAh but it's not had a complete rundown/charge cycle yet. Expensive things batteries, 120 USD for a PB 12", more than for newer/larger PBs. I hope it was cheaper than back home, easier to find a store anyway. There are 2 stores in Minneapolis where I am this week. The Mall of America store has relegated computers to the back corner, the iPod's dominate the front. The Southdale Center store is still mainly computers and all the bits you want are on the shelves, no need for 'do you have a ....?', so they got my business.

Pete H

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