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Crash on wake

Message #1 - Posted 2004/02/25 - James Savage

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

Message #2 - Posted 2004/02/25 - David Kennedy

James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

I had a spell like that after installing Panther...

But it seems to have settled down this week. Maybe a side effect of the last security updates ?

Message #3 - Posted 2004/02/25 - James Savage

David Kennedy wrote:

James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

I had a spell like that after installing Panther...

But it seems to have settled down this week. Maybe a side effect of the last security updates ?

Oddly, it didn't do it tonight! But did yesterday, which was after the update.

Message #4 - Posted 2004/02/26 - Jon B

James Savage wrote:

David Kennedy wrote:

James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

I had a spell like that after installing Panther...

But it seems to have settled down this week. Maybe a side effect of the last security updates ?

Oddly, it didn't do it tonight! But did yesterday, which was after the update.

Had you done a proper restart or had you just forced the installer to quit?

Jon
jon.bradbury@btinternet.com

Message #5 - Posted 2004/02/26 - David Kennedy

James Savage wrote:

David Kennedy wrote:

James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

I had a spell like that after installing Panther...

But it seems to have settled down this week. Maybe a side effect of the last security updates ?

Oddly, it didn't do it tonight! But did yesterday, which was after the update.

I noticed yesterday with the iBook that the problem seems to occur when Classic is running.....

[or was that just a coincidence ?]

Message #6 - Posted 2004/02/26 - James Savage

Jon B wrote:

James Savage wrote:

David Kennedy wrote:

James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

I had a spell like that after installing Panther...

But it seems to have settled down this week. Maybe a side effect of the last security updates ?

Oddly, it didn't do it tonight! But did yesterday, which was after the update.

Had you done a proper restart or had you just forced the installer to quit?

I always do a real one.

Message #7 - Posted 2004/02/26 - James Savage

David Kennedy wrote:

James Savage wrote:

Oddly, it didn't do it tonight! But did yesterday, which was after the update.

I noticed yesterday with the iBook that the problem seems to occur when Classic is running.....

[or was that just a coincidence ?]

I think so, I don't run Classic at all. I'm 100% native :) --
James / CountB
Home http://www.countb.co.uk/ Blog http://www.countb.co.uk/blog/

Message #8 - Posted 2004/02/26 - mutley

James savage wrote:

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

I have had this intermittently with an iMac G4/700 and 10.2. Replies suggested it was to do with USB ??overload and suggested unplugging one USB connection before allowing the iMac to 'sleep' (in my case an Iomega Zip drive). But I haven't cured the problem and I have to live with it.

Richard

Message #9 - Posted 2004/02/26 - Roger Merriman

James Savage wrote:

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

for me it was mounted network drives that it coukdn't find.

roger

Message #10 - Posted 2004/02/26 - Peter Ceresole

Previously, James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

A 100Mb bus-powered Zip drive. Perfectly okay booted in OS9.2.2, but repeatably causing kernel panics on wake in 10.2. Perfectly okay if plugged in after waking.

667 TiBook.

Peter

Message #11 - Posted 2004/02/26 - Roger Merriman

James Savage wrote:

David Kennedy wrote:

James Savage wrote:

Oddly, it didn't do it tonight! But did yesterday, which was after the update.

I noticed yesterday with the iBook that the problem seems to occur when Classic is running.....

[or was that just a coincidence ?]

I think so, I don't run Classic at all. I'm 100% native :)

native what? ;)

roger

Message #12 - Posted 2004/02/26 - James Savage

Roger Merriman wrote:

James Savage wrote:

David Kennedy wrote:

James Savage wrote:

Oddly, it didn't do it tonight! But did yesterday, which was after the update.

I noticed yesterday with the iBook that the problem seems to occur when Classic is running.....

[or was that just a coincidence ?]

I think so, I don't run Classic at all. I'm 100% native :)

native what? ;)

Native half welsh!

Message #13 - Posted 2004/02/26 - James Savage

mutley wrote:

James savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

I have had this intermittently with an iMac G4/700 and 10.2. Replies suggested it was to do with USB ??overload and suggested unplugging one USB connection before allowing the iMac to 'sleep' (in my case an Iomega Zip drive). But I haven't cured the problem and I have to live with it.

I'll try powering down the hub before I sleep, maybe that will help...

Message #14 - Posted 2004/02/26 - James Savage

Roger Merriman wrote:

James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

for me it was mounted network drives that it coukdn't find.

No shared drives here...

Message #15 - Posted 2004/02/26 - James Savage

Peter Ceresole wrote:

Previously, James Savage wrote:

What caused this for other people?

A 100Mb bus-powered Zip drive. Perfectly okay booted in OS9.2.2, but repeatably causing kernel panics on wake in 10.2. Perfectly okay if plugged in after waking.

Now there's a thought, my scanner has been acting up... --
James / CountB
Home http://www.countb.co.uk/ Blog http://www.countb.co.uk/blog/

Message #16 - Posted 2004/02/27 - Jon B

Roger Merriman wrote:

James Savage wrote:

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

for me it was mounted network drives that it coukdn't find.

10.3 does seem to be much better than 10.2 when it loses a shared drive, connecting to them in the first place is a bit more unreliable though. At least the good old favourite of turning off the PC or the iMac whilst I'm attached to it doesn't bring it down to a complete halt anymore. --
Jon
jon.bradbury@btinternet.com

Message #17 - Posted 2004/02/27 - Rowland McDonnell

James Savage wrote:

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

I don't let my Macs sleep, 'cos I've always had trouble with 'em waking up. But if you've got oddness like that - repair disc+permissions? Panther Cache Cleaner? I've noticed that system crashes do seem to have a tendency to corrupt caches, at least on this 'ere 10.2.8 2003 MDD 2G4.

Rowland.

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Message #18 - Posted 2004/02/27 - Jon B

Rowland McDonnell wrote:

James Savage wrote:

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

I don't let my Macs sleep, 'cos I've always had trouble with 'em waking up. But if you've got oddness like that - repair disc+permissions? Panther Cache Cleaner? I've noticed that system crashes do seem to have a tendency to corrupt caches, at least on this 'ere 10.2.8 2003 MDD 2G4.

Never had any problems with it, but then I don't have many usb devices hanging off mine, usb pen at home, and a powered hub here with keyboard and mouse hanging off. All the machines in this office go to sleep every night after 3hrs and they all wake up fine, but again they have no usb devices accept the apple keyboard and a usb mouse of some description.

Now the macs at remote offices with a USB printer hanging off though are a bit more susceptible to not waking from sleep.

Jon
jon.bradbury@btinternet.com

Message #19 - Posted 2004/02/27 - James Savage

Rowland McDonnell wrote:

James Savage wrote:

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

I don't let my Macs sleep, 'cos I've always had trouble with 'em waking up. But if you've got oddness like that - repair disc+permissions? Panther Cache Cleaner? I've noticed that system crashes do seem to have a tendency to corrupt caches, at least on this 'ere 10.2.8 2003 MDD 2G4.

I'll try those, ta :)

Message #20 - Posted 2004/02/27 - Peter Ceresole

Previously, Jon B wrote:

All the machines in this office go to sleep every night after 3hrs and they all wake up fine, but again they have no usb devices accept the apple keyboard and a usb mouse of some description.

My TiBook sleeps and wakes well with a powered hub, powered Zip250, Logitech mouse and DeskJet 840C hanging off one USB port, and a Keyspan USB->serial adapter and USR Courier hanging off the other.

As I said, substituting an unpowered Zip100 for the powered Zip250 means an almost guaranteed kernel panic on waking.

667 TiBook, 10.2.6

Peter

Message #21 - Posted 2004/02/27 - Roger Merriman

James Savage wrote:

Roger Merriman wrote:

James Savage wrote:

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I think so, I don't run Classic at all. I'm 100% native :)

native what? ;)

Native half welsh!

roger lives in wales but zero welsh in blood every thing else mind....

roger

Message #22 - Posted 2004/02/27 - Roger Merriman

Jon B wrote:

Roger Merriman wrote:

James Savage wrote:

For a week or so my Powerbook G4 15" Alu (10.3.2) has been crashing, or rather, freezing on wake. AFAIK nothing has changed, I've been too ill to install lots of crap and I've no new USB stuff in.

What caused this for other people?

for me it was mounted network drives that it coukdn't find.

10.3 does seem to be much better than 10.2 when it loses a shared drive, connecting to them in the first place is a bit more unreliable though. At least the good old favourite of turning off the PC or the iMac whilst I'm attached to it doesn't bring it down to a complete halt anymore.

yes i haven't had a network crash 10.3 though it still grinds and spins for a min or 2 if it can't find it why it takes that much OS time i don't know should be desigind to drop thats the thing about wireless networks you can easly go behond there range....

roger

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