In article B82FCFC0.BB53%cvblr@redacted.invalid, cvblr cvblr@redacted.invalid wrote:
I set Energy Saver to the never sleep setting, but my G4 still sleeps. I even disabled it in Ext. Manager and it still sleeps (at least the monitor sleeps; I don't know about the hard disk). What am I doing wrong? I disabled it because I was having a router problem (not holding the IP address) and I wanted to eliminate all possible causes. Am I shortening the life of my Mac if I don't have ES enabled?
You might need to reenable it, reset all settings to never sleep, restart and then disable it again.
Madeline
And while we are on this topic I just need to say this: For years and years I have seen CSM, MacFixit, Tidbits, and other Mac help places carry gazillions of posts about Energy Saver problems. Does this continue into OSX? Or are we going to be spared the further indignity of pervasively crappy energy saver system software? I cannot use Energy Saver on my new G4 either and I think it is a crime that after all these years Apple still cannot get that right.
Madeline
Yes, sleep is still a problem. My 7500 purchased new in 1996 has never slept properly. I use Sleeper instead.
My Powerbook Firewire (Pismo) will now not go to sleep on its own when I set the energy saver control panel to sleep in 15 minutes. You can put it to sleep manually via the menu item or by closing the case. Sleeper has its quirkyness with the Powerbook that it does not have with the 7500.
All in all, Apple still hasn't gotten it right.
Cheers mrjazz
In article B82FCFC0.BB53%cvblr@redacted.invalid, cvblr cvblr@redacted.invalid wrote:
I set Energy Saver to the never sleep setting, but my G4 still sleeps. I even disabled it in Ext. Manager and it still sleeps (at least the monitor sleeps; I don't know about the hard disk). What am I doing wrong? I disabled it because I was having a router problem (not holding the IP address) and I wanted to eliminate all possible causes. Am I shortening the life of my Mac if I don't have ES enabled?
I have to disagree on this one...
I have owned 6 wintel laptops over the years, and NOT ONE of them would sleep/wake reliably. On my last one, which was a Vaio, when it did wake without freezing, it took 3 MINUTES just to fully wake up. And the write to disk mode took even longer. My iBook, otoh, wakes in about 5 seconds every single time, either in X or 9.x. Maybe Apple hasn't gotten it perfect, but it sure beats the heck out of anything else out there...
Trace
Yes, sleep is still a problem. My 7500 purchased new in 1996 has never slept properly. I use Sleeper instead.
My Powerbook Firewire (Pismo) will now not go to sleep on its own when I set the energy saver control panel to sleep in 15 minutes. You can put it to sleep manually via the menu item or by closing the case. Sleeper has its quirkyness with the Powerbook that it does not have with the 7500.
All in all, Apple still hasn't gotten it right.
Are you setting ALL the settings to never?
According to what I've read here and other places, one is supposed to keep Energy Saver cp loaded even if all is set to never and even if one is using a secondary sleep cp such as Sleeper. Doing this solved a problem a client was having with Sleeper.
hth
--Fred
Madwen (madwen@redacted.invalid) wrote: : In article B82FCFC0.BB53%cvblr@redacted.invalid, cvblr cvblr@redacted.invalid : wrote:
: >I set Energy Saver to the never sleep setting, but my G4 still sleeps. I : >even disabled it in Ext. Manager and it still sleeps (at least the monitor : >sleeps; I don't know about the hard disk). What am I doing wrong? I disabled : >it because I was having a router problem (not holding the IP address) and I : >wanted to eliminate all possible causes. Am I shortening the life of my Mac : >if I don't have ES enabled?
: You might need to reenable it, reset all settings to never sleep, : restart and then disable it again.
: Madeline
In article 9uln6n$5q3$1@redacted.invalid, fmoore@redacted.invalid (Fred Moore) wrote:
According to what I've read here and other places, one is supposed to keep Energy Saver cp loaded even if all is set to never and even if one is using a secondary sleep cp such as Sleeper. Doing this solved a problem a client was having with Sleeper.
Yes that is how mine is set and I never have any problems.
M.
From: fmoore@redacted.invalid (Fred Moore) Organization: The Greater Columbus Free-Net Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Date: 5 Dec 2001 12:57:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Energy Saver
Are you setting ALL the settings to never?
According to what I've read here and other places, one is supposed to keep Energy Saver cp loaded even if all is set to never and even if one is using a secondary sleep cp such as Sleeper. Doing this solved a problem a client was having with Sleeper.
hth
--Fred
Madwen (madwen@redacted.invalid) wrote: : In article B82FCFC0.BB53%cvblr@redacted.invalid, cvblr cvblr@redacted.invalid : wrote:
: >I set Energy Saver to the never sleep setting, but my G4 still sleeps. I : >even disabled it in Ext. Manager and it still sleeps (at least the monitor : >sleeps; I don't know about the hard disk). What am I doing wrong? I disabled : >it because I was having a router problem (not holding the IP address) and I : >wanted to eliminate all possible causes. Am I shortening the life of my Mac : >if I don't have ES enabled?
: You might need to reenable it, reset all settings to never sleep, : restart and then disable it again.
: Madeline
Orig. poster again: Since my first post, I renabled Energy Saver (in Ext. Mgr.), reset it to "never," disabled it again, and restarted my G4. Now it never sleeps. IOW, ES is working correctly. However, the only reason I set ES to never is to eliminate all possible causes of my Linksys router's IP address dropout. (I wanted to see if sleep have caused dropouts.) Since I disabled ES, I've had only one dropout (i.e. after an HD crash I had to hit the reset button, and the IP address reverted to my ISP's default IP setting) but I had also made some changes in my TCP/IP settings at the same time, so I don't know what ultimately fixed the IP problem.