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Force startup in OS X

Message #1 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Bob Allison

A while back I read a post about a key combination to hold down to force the computer to boot in OS X even though the system was "set" to boot in OS 9.

Does anybody out there know this combination? I tried to Google it, but no luck. It's probably on Apple.com but none of the search terms I tried worked.

TIA for your time.

Bob
In Carmel, CA

Message #2 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Madwen

Previously, Bob Allison wrote:

A while back I read a post about a key combination to hold down to force the computer to boot in OS X even though the system was "set" to boot in OS 9.

Does anybody out there know this combination? I tried to Google it, but no luck. It's probably on Apple.com but none of the search terms I tried worked.

TIA for your time.

It depends what computer you have.... not all can be forced the same way. If both systems are in the same volume, press Command-X when starting up. Also, on my Quicksilver, pressing the option key at startup brings up a screen that allows you to select a startup disk/system.

Message #3 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Peter Loobuyck

Use the option key, it lets you select the systemfolder to start from...

Previously, Bob Allison wrote:

A while back I read a post about a key combination to hold down to force the computer to boot in OS X even though the system was "set" to boot in OS 9.

Does anybody out there know this combination? I tried to Google it, but no luck. It's probably on Apple.com but none of the search terms I tried worked.

TIA for your time.

It depends what computer you have.... not all can be forced the same way. If both systems are in the same volume, press Command-X when starting up. Also, on my Quicksilver, pressing the option key at startup brings up a screen that allows you to select a startup disk/system.

Message #4 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Bob Allison

Previously, Peter Loobuyck wrote:

Use the option key, it lets you select the systemfolder to start from...

It depends what computer you have.... not all can be forced the same way. If both systems are in the same volume, press Command-X when starting up. Also, on my Quicksilver, pressing the option key at startup brings up a screen that allows you to select a startup disk/system.

Thanks . I'll give it a try

Bob
In Carmel, CA

Message #5 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Tom Stiller

Previously, Peter Loobuyck wrote:

Use the option key, it lets you select the systemfolder to start from...

Not on any of my Macs. Holding the Option key allow me to choose the startup _volume_ but each volume only offers the OS which was last specified for it with the Startup Disk control panel/system preference.

Previously, Bob Allison wrote:

A while back I read a post about a key combination to hold down to force the computer to boot in OS X even though the system was "set" to boot in OS 9.

Does anybody out there know this combination? I tried to Google it, but no luck. It's probably on Apple.com but none of the search terms I tried worked.

TIA for your time.

It depends what computer you have.... not all can be forced the same way. If both systems are in the same volume, press Command-X when starting up. Also, on my Quicksilver, pressing the option key at startup brings up a screen that allows you to select a startup disk/system.

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Message #6 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Bob Allison

Previously, Tom Stiller wrote:

Previously, Peter Loobuyck wrote:

Use the option key, it lets you select the systemfolder to start from...

Not on any of my Macs. Holding the Option key allow me to choose the startup _volume_ but each volume only offers the OS which was last specified for it with the Startup Disk control panel/system preference.

Same on my Mac (G4 466) Cmd+X did work though. Thanks again

Bob
In Carmel, CA

Message #7 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Jeff Grossman

Madwen wrote:

Previously, Bob Allison wrote:

A while back I read a post about a key combination to hold down to force the computer to boot in OS X even though the system was "set" to boot in OS 9.

Does anybody out there know this combination? I tried to Google it, but no luck. It's probably on Apple.com but none of the search terms I tried worked.

TIA for your time.

It depends what computer you have.... not all can be forced the same way. If both systems are in the same volume, press Command-X when starting up. Also, on my Quicksilver, pressing the option key at startup brings up a screen that allows you to select a startup disk/system.

I have never tried the Command-X combination. I will have to give that a try. Doesn't the option key method require the two operating systems to be on separate volumes? I have both OS X and OS 9 installed on one volume, and it never worked for me. I have not tried it recently though.

Jeff

Message #8 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Jeff Grossman

Peter Loobuyck wrote:

Use the option key, it lets you select the systemfolder to start from...

Doesn't that require the operating systems to be on separate volumes? It has not worked for me with the two operating systems on the same volume.

Jeff

Message #9 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Madwen

Previously, Peter Loobuyck wrote:

Previously, Bob Allison wrote:

A while back I read a post about a key combination to hold down to force the computer to boot in OS X even though the system was "set" to boot in OS 9.

Does anybody out there know this combination? I tried to Google it, but no luck. It's probably on Apple.com but none of the search terms I tried worked.

TIA for your time.

It depends what computer you have.... not all can be forced the same way. If both systems are in the same volume, press Command-X when starting up. Also, on my Quicksilver, pressing the option key at startup brings up a screen that allows you to select a startup disk/system.

Use the option key, it lets you select the systemfolder to start from...

What I just said above.

Message #10 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Madwen

Previously, Bob Allison wrote:

Previously, Tom Stiller wrote:

Previously, Peter Loobuyck wrote:

Use the option key, it lets you select the systemfolder to start from...

Not on any of my Macs. Holding the Option key allow me to choose the startup _volume_ but each volume only offers the OS which was last specified for it with the Startup Disk control panel/system preference.

Same on my Mac (G4 466) Cmd+X did work though. Thanks again

You're welcome.

Message #11 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Madwen

Previously, Jeff Grossman wrote:

Madwen wrote:

Previously, Bob Allison wrote:

A while back I read a post about a key combination to hold down to force the computer to boot in OS X even though the system was "set" to boot in OS 9.

Does anybody out there know this combination? I tried to Google it, but no luck. It's probably on Apple.com but none of the search terms I tried worked.

TIA for your time.

It depends what computer you have.... not all can be forced the same way. If both systems are in the same volume, press Command-X when starting up. Also, on my Quicksilver, pressing the option key at startup brings up a screen that allows you to select a startup disk/system.

I have never tried the Command-X combination. I will have to give that a try. Doesn't the option key method require the two operating systems to be on separate volumes? I have both OS X and OS 9 installed on one volume, and it never worked for me. I have not tried it recently though.

Jeff

IIRC, I think that it does because I have only one OS 9 and that is on the same volume as the Panther I use most of the time. However, it may not work on all computers.

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Message #12 - Posted 2004/06/17 - Chuck Reti

Previously, Madwen wrote:

IIRC, I think that it does because I have only one OS 9 and that is on the same volume as the Panther I use most of the time. However, it may not work on all computers.

I've never used "CMD-X." Simply holding down "X" will cause restart from OS 9 into OS X, but only if the systems are on same partition or a non-partitioned drive. If restarting, it has to do two "starts" while the "x" key is held. If 9 and X are on separate partitions, you need to use the "option" key method as described earlier. --
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Message #13 - Posted 2004/06/18 - Jeff Grossman

Chuck Reti wrote:

Previously, Madwen wrote:

IIRC, I think that it does because I have only one OS 9 and that is on the same volume as the Panther I use most of the time. However, it may not work on all computers.

I've never used "CMD-X." Simply holding down "X" will cause restart from OS 9 into OS X, but only if the systems are on same partition or a non-partitioned drive. If restarting, it has to do two "starts" while the "x" key is held. If 9 and X are on separate partitions, you need to use the "option" key method as described earlier.

If I was previously started up in OS X, but want to boot in OS 9, what key combination can I use if both operating systems are on the same partition?

Jeff

Message #14 - Posted 2004/06/19 - Tacit

If I was previously started up in OS X, but want to boot in OS 9, what key combination can I use if both operating systems are on the same partition?

None. Holding down the X key (note: you do not need to hold down Command-X, just X alone) forces a reboot using X, but Open Firmware has no provision for forcing a reboot in 9. Sorry...

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Message #15 - Posted 2004/06/19 - Chuck Reti

Previously, Jeff Grossman wrote:

If I was previously started up in OS X, but want to boot in OS 9, what key combination can I use if both operating systems are on the same partition?

Jeff

There is no key combo for a reboot from X to 9. Instead, simply open System Preferences>Startup Disk, select OS 9.x system folder; click Restart.

Chuck Reti
Detroit MI

Message #16 - Posted 2004/06/21 - Jeff Grossman

Tacit wrote:

If I was previously started up in OS X, but want to boot in OS 9, what key combination can I use if both operating systems are on the same partition?

None. Holding down the X key (note: you do not need to hold down Command-X, just X alone) forces a reboot using X, but Open Firmware has no provision for forcing a reboot in 9. Sorry...

Thanks for the information.

Jeff

Message #17 - Posted 2004/06/21 - Jeff Grossman

Chuck Reti wrote:

Previously, Jeff Grossman wrote:

If I was previously started up in OS X, but want to boot in OS 9, what key combination can I use if both operating systems are on the same partition?

Jeff

There is no key combo for a reboot from X to 9. Instead, simply open System Preferences>Startup Disk, select OS 9.x system folder; click Restart.

Yes, I know. I am almost always in OS X. But, there are times when I know I need to get into OS 9, and would prefer to not wait for OS X to load, just to restart in OS 9. It would speed things up a little bit if I could just boot right into 9 from the beginning.

Jeff

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