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Freezes on wake from sleep since 10.3.4

Message #1 - Posted 2004/06/25 - Mats Weber

My Powerbook 15" 1.25 GHz frequently freezes on wake from sleep when I open the lid. I get a black screen (no cursor). This did happen before, but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

Message #2 - Posted 2004/06/25 - Frank Perrey

Mats Weber wrote:

This did happen before,
but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

->hardware (display cable?)

or:
any noise from: speaker? harddisk? cd-rom?
can you quit the finder?
can you unlog? (command-shift-Q)
can you restart using the on/off button? (press and enter) any (blind) action possible? (f.e. command-shift-N, is a new folder seen after restart showing date-time of the action?)
what are the crash logs telling?
and :
what "black screen"? just dead display or backlit on and no content?

Greetings Frank

Message #3 - Posted 2004/06/25 - Madwen

Previously, Mats Weber wrote:

My Powerbook 15" 1.25 GHz frequently freezes on wake from sleep when I open the lid. I get a black screen (no cursor). This did happen before, but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

My G4 desktop has been doing something similar since 10.3.4 but it eventually "unfreezes". I turn on the monitor to awaken it and the frozen desktop screen appears (I usually turn off the monitor when I sleep the computer) but typing a key does nothing. The timeframe varies a LOT. Sometimes the drive starts right up (or drives if I have the externals on). Sometimes I have to wait as long as a full minute for the computer to signal the drives to start up.... though that is rare... and then I ave my cursor back. OTOH, my apps start lickety-split now and Panther is _much_ peppier so I am trying to be patient. I hope you get it resolved.

For as long as I can remember--- WAY pre- OS X--- sleep and energy saver issues have been rampant. I am sure there are technical reasons for that but I have no idea what they are.

Message #4 - Posted 2004/06/25 - clw

Previously, Madwen wrote:

Previously, Mats Weber wrote:

My Powerbook 15" 1.25 GHz frequently freezes on wake from sleep when I open the lid. I get a black screen (no cursor). This did happen before, but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

My G4 desktop has been doing something similar since 10.3.4 but it eventually "unfreezes". I turn on the monitor to awaken it and the frozen desktop screen appears (I usually turn off the monitor when I sleep the computer) but typing a key does nothing. The timeframe varies a LOT. Sometimes the drive starts right up (or drives if I have the externals on). Sometimes I have to wait as long as a full minute for the computer to signal the drives to start up.... though that is rare... and then I ave my cursor back. OTOH, my apps start lickety-split now and Panther is _much_ peppier so I am trying to be patient. I hope you get it resolved.

For as long as I can remember--- WAY pre- OS X--- sleep and energy saver issues have been rampant. I am sure there are technical reasons for that but I have no idea what they are.

In my case, running 10.2.6 on an iMac I get a kernal panic if I choose sleep from the apple menu but not if I let it go to sleep on time using the pref pane.

Message #5 - Posted 2004/06/27 - Red Eric

Previously, Mats Weber wrote:

My Powerbook 15" 1.25 GHz frequently freezes on wake from sleep when I open the lid. I get a black screen (no cursor). This did happen before, but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

kj nlk

Message #6 - Posted 2004/06/28 -

On 2004-06-28 03:52:40 +0200, Red Eric said:

Previously, Mats Weber wrote:

My Powerbook 15" 1.25 GHz frequently freezes on wake from sleep when I open the lid. I get a black screen (no cursor). This did happen before, but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

kj nlk

Yep.... same thing for me, Powerbook G4, 400Mhz....if only there were some pattern to this.... but no!

kind regards

nse

"Ach, crivens, what a wee snotter....."

Quote from "The Wee Free Men" by Terry Pratchett

Message #7 - Posted 2004/06/28 - Andy McMullin

On 2004-06-25 11:48:32 +0100, Mats Weber said:

My Powerbook 15" 1.25 GHz frequently freezes on wake from sleep when I open the lid. I get a black screen (no cursor). This did happen before, but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

I see something slightly different, but consistent, on my iBook since upgrading. What I get is my airport and bluetooth both dying and not re-starting after a sleep.

To get my (Apple bluetooth) mouse working again, I find it quickest to try a "browse device" -- and yes, I know it's not a browsable device -- which suddenly gets it going. For Airport, I have to click on "turn Airport off"; then wait for about a minute; then "turn Airport on" -- which usually reconnects me to the house network, but sometimes it doesn't.

I wonder if it's a related problem?

--
Regards
Andy, G8TQH
http://www.rickham.net/

Message #8 - Posted 2004/07/01 - Maurice

fFrank Perrey wrote:

Mats Weber wrote:

This did happen before,
but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

->hardware (display cable?)

or:
any noise from: speaker? harddisk? cd-rom?
can you quit the finder?
can you unlog? (command-shift-Q)
can you restart using the on/off button? (press and enter) any (blind) action possible? (f.e. command-shift-N, is a new folder seen after restart showing date-time of the action?)
what are the crash logs telling?
and :
what "black screen"? just dead display or backlit on and no content?

Greetings Frank

Message #9 - Posted 2004/07/01 - Maurice

Mats Weber wrote:

My Powerbook 15" 1.25 GHz frequently freezes on wake from sleep when I open the lid. I get a black screen (no cursor). This did happen before, but it has become much more frequent since 10.3.4. Is anybody else seeing this ?

I was getting the same problem on my 933 iBook, and the problem - like yours - became much more frequent after installing 10.3.4

What solved it for me was deleting an invisible file named .GlobalPreferences.plist

Since doing that the problem has disappeared altogether...!

The remedy was mentioned on MacFixit by someone who had a slightly different problem, but it worked for me.

.GlobalPreferences.plisthttp://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=200406 22074121695#EnergySaver

Message #10 - Posted 2004/07/01 - Maurice

Maurice wrote:

Sorry, that MaxFixit URL should have been

http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20040622074121695#EnergySaver

Message #11 - Posted 2004/07/01 - Peter Verdon

Maurice wrote:

I was getting the same problem on my 933 iBook, and the problem - like yours - became much more frequent after installing 10.3.4

10.3.4 does seem to have bollocksed the stability somewhat. I didn't have a single crash of any kind between getting the machine and upgrading to 10.3.4, but since then I've had at least four.

Pete

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