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G3 Wall Street Li-Ion Battery Problem

Message #1 - Posted 2003/07/29 - Noah Liberman

I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the machine stopped recognizing the battery, showing an "X" through the battery icon on the desktop menu. This happened after I'd bumped the computer accidentally, but not violently, against a doorway while it was in my shoulder bag. (Insert joke here.) I called the battery maker and they were doubtful a blow to the battery would scramble it, saying the contents are solid and not easily scramble-able. I wonder. I tried the old "Battery Reset" program, but it appears that does not work with Li-Ion batteries. Strangely, however, the program does recognize that I have a battery in the bay. The machine does not, in either bay, and so I'm battery-less. Any ideas for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

Noah Liberman
noahl@noahl.com

Message #2 - Posted 2003/07/29 - Henry

Noah Liberman wrote:

I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the machine stopped recognizing the battery

Any ideas
for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

Have you tried resetting the Power Manager?

cheers,

Henry

Message #3 - Posted 2003/07/29 - Noah Liberman

yes, several times! no luck.

in article 1fyvndm.1bjv409ae6728N%henry999@eircom.net, Henry at henry999@eircom.net wrote on 7/29/03 1:23 PM:

Noah Liberman wrote:

I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the machine stopped recognizing the battery

Any ideas
for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

Have you tried resetting the Power Manager?

cheers,

Henry

Message #4 - Posted 2003/07/30 - John Johnson

Previously, Noah Liberman wrote:

in article 1fyvndm.1bjv409ae6728N%henry999@eircom.net, Henry at henry999@eircom.net wrote on 7/29/03 1:23 PM:

Noah Liberman wrote:

I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the machine stopped recognizing the battery

Any ideas
for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

Have you tried resetting the Power Manager?

cheers,

Henry

yes, several times! no luck.

You might check the contacts, both on the battery and in the 'Book. If you aren't getting solid contact, you might get similar symptoms. Or the battery might be loose in the bay.

Just how hard did you bump the computer, anyway?

later.

johajohn AT indianahoosiers DOT edu

Remove the adjective to reply. Indiana is a noun.

Message #5 - Posted 2003/07/29 - Pat Janes

Previously, Noah Liberman wrote:

I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the machine stopped recognizing the battery, showing an "X" through the battery icon on the desktop menu.....I tried the old "Battery Reset" program, but it appears that does not work with Li-Ion batteries. Strangely, however, the program does recognize that I have a battery in the bay. The machine does not, in either bay, and so I'm battery-less. Any ideas for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

There is a battery reset application made specifically for the Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655

Message #6 - Posted 2003/07/30 - Noah Liberman

yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was created in 1999.

in article cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net, Pat Janes at cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:

Previously, Noah Liberman wrote:

I have a G3 Wall Street with a newer Lithium-Ion battery. Suddenly the machine stopped recognizing the battery, showing an "X" through the battery icon on the desktop menu.....I tried the old "Battery Reset" program, but it appears that does not work with Li-Ion batteries. Strangely, however, the program does recognize that I have a battery in the bay. The machine does not, in either bay, and so I'm battery-less. Any ideas for reviving my apparently comatose battery?

There is a battery reset application made specifically for the Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655

Message #7 - Posted 2003/07/30 - Pat Janes

in article cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net, Pat Janes at cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:

There is a battery reset application made specifically for the Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655

Previously, Noah Liberman wrote:

yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was created in 1999.

I find it strange that it wouldn't work with Li-Ion batteries. The Battery reset 2.0 utility was made for Wallstreets and some iBooks, all of which have Li-Ion batteries. Every PowerBook since the 3400 (1997) has shipped with a Li-Ion battery.

Message #8 - Posted 2003/07/31 - Noah Liberman

Hmmmm, then I'm stumped. My other question is why both components of the Battery Reset program aren't getting installed on my G3 when I run the installer. The Battery Reset element goes into the Utilities folder, but the Battery Updater element does not appear in my Extensions folder, or anywhere else on the computer. I wonder if this is preventing Reset from completing the job?

Maybe someone could e-mail me the Battery Updater extension for a G3 (not the iBook Battery Updater!). Thank you.

in article cwnarf-A4F569.21091530072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net, Pat Janes at cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg wrote on 7/30/03 6:39 PM:

in article cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net, Pat Janes at cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:

There is a battery reset application made specifically for the Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655

Previously, Noah Liberman wrote:

yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was created in 1999.

I find it strange that it wouldn't work with Li-Ion batteries. The Battery reset 2.0 utility was made for Wallstreets and some iBooks, all of which have Li-Ion batteries. Every PowerBook since the 3400 (1997) has shipped with a Li-Ion battery.

Message #9 - Posted 2003/07/31 - Donald Smith

Le 31/07/03 05:08, dans BB4DF29E.EB77%noahl@noahl.com, ´†Noah Liberman†ª <noahl@noahl.com> a Ècrit†:

Hmmmm, then I'm stumped. My other question is why both components of the Battery Reset program aren't getting installed on my G3 when I run the installer. The Battery Reset element goes into the Utilities folder, but the Battery Updater element does not appear in my Extensions folder, or anywhere else on the computer. I wonder if this is preventing Reset from completing the job?

Maybe someone could e-mail me the Battery Updater extension for a G3 (not the iBook Battery Updater!). Thank you.

in article cwnarf-A4F569.21091530072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net, Pat Janes at cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg wrote on 7/30/03 6:39 PM:

in article cwnarf-84A151.23265329072003@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net, Pat Janes at cwnarf@arjpbzz.arg wrote on 7/29/03 8:56 PM:

There is a battery reset application made specifically for the Wallstreet and some iBooks. Worth a try.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60655

Previously, Noah Liberman wrote:

yes, i've tried it, but it doesn't work on the Li-Ion batteries. It was created in 1999.

I find it strange that it wouldn't work with Li-Ion batteries. The Battery reset 2.0 utility was made for Wallstreets and some iBooks, all of which have Li-Ion batteries. Every PowerBook since the 3400 (1997) has shipped with a Li-Ion battery.

another common problem: the screws under the battery must be just right, not to tight, not too loose, try this, it cured my problem

Message #10 - Posted 2003/07/31 - Lewin A.R.W. Edwards

Hmmmm, then I'm stumped. My other question is why both components of the Battery Reset program aren't getting installed on my G3 when I run the installer. The Battery Reset element goes into the Utilities folder, but the

Check: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60665&sessionID=anonymous%7C18729084&kbhost=kbase.info.apple.com%3a80%2f>

Basically, the extension was rolled into OS 9. "PowerBook G3 Series owners with Mac OS 9 installed may still want to install the Battery Reset 2.0 software to get the Battery Reset application. This application will reset a battery which may have been damaged in a certain way. The Battery Reset application is not needed, and will not work on an iBook or PowerBook (FireWire) computer."

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