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Message #1 - Posted 2007/01/17 - X Kyle M Thompson

Got home to find my MacBook misbehaving - has shutdown with no warming eight or so times now, managed to backup most information since last clone, not sure to send it to Western in Bristol or Apple themselves. Please email me at kylet, a co in the UK.
Fingers crossed!
kt.

Bugger

Message #2 - Posted 2007/01/17 - Jon B

X Kyle M Thompson wrote:

Got home to find my MacBook misbehaving - has shutdown with no warming eight or so times now, managed to backup most information since last clone, not sure to send it to Western in Bristol or Apple themselves. Please email me at kylet, a co in the UK.
Fingers crossed!
kt.

Sounds like the RSD (Random ShutDown) problem rev1 MacBooks have suffered with, the board gets a bit hot, melts a wire, then it starts to thermal cut out at increasing intervals. Time for a new logic board. --
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.

Message #3 - Posted 2007/01/17 - Caol MacThòmais

On 2007-01-17 17:13:57 +0000, Jon B said:

X Kyle M Thompson wrote:

Got home to find my MacBook misbehaving - has shutdown with no warming eight or so times now, managed to backup most information since last clone, not sure to send it to Western in Bristol or Apple themselves. Please email me at kylet, a co in the UK.
Fingers crossed!
kt.

Sounds like the RSD (Random ShutDown) problem rev1 MacBooks have suffered with, the board gets a bit hot, melts a wire, then it starts to thermal cut out at increasing intervals. Time for a new logic board.

Do you know if this helps?

<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304308>

If I had been able to browse the internet properly I could have found

<Macbook Random Shutdown>!

If the SMC upgrade doesn't help I'll take it in tomorrow AM, this really isn't the best time for a dodgy computer with all the work I have on. I guess no time is a good time for a dodgy computer! --
I went to the doctor. I said to him "I'm frightened of lapels."† He said, "You've got cholera."

Message #4 - Posted 2007/01/17 - Jaimie Vandenbergh

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:47:44 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais wrote:

On 2007-01-17 17:13:57 +0000, Jon B said:

X Kyle M Thompson wrote:

Got home to find my MacBook misbehaving - has shutdown with no warming eight or so times now, managed to backup most information since last clone, not sure to send it to Western in Bristol or Apple themselves. Please email me at kylet, a co in the UK.
Fingers crossed!
kt.

Sounds like the RSD (Random ShutDown) problem rev1 MacBooks have suffered with, the board gets a bit hot, melts a wire, then it starts to thermal cut out at increasing intervals. Time for a new logic board.

Do you know if this helps?

<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304308>

It works around the issue by ignoring the signal from the melted wire, IIRC. Which means you're susceptible to whatever it was the melted wire was meant to warn you about.

Better than rebooting, but certainly not a fix, just a workaround to get you to a service centre appointment.

Cheers - Jaimie

There's no place like 127.0.0.1

Message #5 - Posted 2007/01/17 - Caol MacThòmais

On 2007-01-17 18:58:45 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:47:44 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais wrote:

On 2007-01-17 17:13:57 +0000, Jon B said:

X Kyle M Thompson wrote:

Got home to find my MacBook misbehaving - has shutdown with no warming eight or so times now, managed to backup most information since last clone, not sure to send it to Western in Bristol or Apple themselves. Please email me at kylet, a co in the UK.
Fingers crossed!
kt.

Sounds like the RSD (Random ShutDown) problem rev1 MacBooks have suffered with, the board gets a bit hot, melts a wire, then it starts to thermal cut out at increasing intervals. Time for a new logic board.

Do you know if this helps?

<http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304308>

It works around the issue by ignoring the signal from the melted wire, IIRC. Which means you're susceptible to whatever it was the melted wire was meant to warn you about.

Better than rebooting, but certainly not a fix, just a workaround to get you to a service centre appointment.

Except it doesn't work... Was just replying to Jon and it shutdown again. Shorte messages are best at this point.

Cheers,

kt.

kt.

I went to the doctor. I said to him "I'm frightened of lapels."† He said, "You've got cholera."

Message #6 - Posted 2007/01/17 - Paul Mackenzie Smith

X Kyle M Thompson wrote:

Got home to find my MacBook misbehaving - has shutdown with no warming

You may find warming is exactly what it has an excess of...

I can't make a recommendation as to where to send it as I'd have to declare an interest.

Paul.

Paul Mackenzie Smith, Bristol, UK
iMac G5 (iSight) 1.9, OS X 10.4.8, 1.5Gb
To reply, take the pith out of blueyonder.

Message #7 - Posted 2007/01/17 - Caol MacThòmais

On 2007-01-17 20:49:43 +0000, Paul Mackenzie Smith said:

X Kyle M Thompson wrote:

Got home to find my MacBook misbehaving - has shutdown with no warming

You may find warming is exactly what it has an excess of...

Ah, the wonders of usenet on google groups on a mobile phone!

I can't make a recommendation as to where to send it as I'd have to declare an interest.

It hasn't happened again yet, next time it does, though, I'll send it somewhere. Spoke to Western on the phone, advised to try looking on Apple's site - which I did and the SMC update. Just going to clone while it's happy.

kt.

I went to the doctor. I said to him "I'm frightened of lapels."† He said, "You've got cholera."

Message #8 - Posted 2007/01/18 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-01-17 19:03:57 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais said:

On 2007-01-17 18:58:45 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:47:44 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais wrote:

On 2007-01-17 17:13:57 +0000, black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) said: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304308>

It works around the issue by ignoring the signal from the melted wire, IIRC. Which means you're susceptible to whatever it was the melted wire was meant to warn you about.

Better than rebooting, but certainly not a fix, just a workaround to get you to a service centre appointment.

Except it doesn't work... Was just replying to Jon and it shutdown again.

That article says how to install it if the machine "is in a state where it will not remain on long enough to install the update".

Does resting the MB on something like a bag of frozen peas keep it any cooler for a bit?

Cheers,

Chris

Message #9 - Posted 2007/01/18 - Caol MacThòmais

On 2007-01-18 06:56:50 +0000, Chris Ridd said:

On 2007-01-17 19:03:57 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais said:

On 2007-01-17 18:58:45 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:47:44 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais wrote:

On 2007-01-17 17:13:57 +0000, black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) said: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304308>

It works around the issue by ignoring the signal from the melted wire, IIRC. Which means you're susceptible to whatever it was the melted wire was meant to warn you about.

Better than rebooting, but certainly not a fix, just a workaround to get you to a service centre appointment.

Except it doesn't work... Was just replying to Jon and it shutdown again.

That article says how to install it if the machine "is in a state where it will not remain on long enough to install the update".

I got it installed okay, then 10 min after reboot it shutdown again - however I restarted it 30 mins later and it stayed on for the rest of the night. Fingers crossed it will be okay until after the essay is due ;)

Thanks for the help everyone.

I went to the doctor. I said to him "I'm frightened of lapels."† He said, "You've got cholera."

Message #10 - Posted 2007/01/18 - Jon B

Caol MacThÚmais wrote:

On 2007-01-18 06:56:50 +0000, Chris Ridd said:

On 2007-01-17 19:03:57 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais

<caol.macthomais@gmail.com> said:

On 2007-01-17 18:58:45 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:47:44 +0000, Caol MacThÚmais wrote:

On 2007-01-17 17:13:57 +0000, black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) said: <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304308>

It works around the issue by ignoring the signal from the melted wire, IIRC. Which means you're susceptible to whatever it was the melted wire was meant to warn you about.

Better than rebooting, but certainly not a fix, just a workaround to get you to a service centre appointment.

Except it doesn't work... Was just replying to Jon and it shutdown again.

That article says how to install it if the machine "is in a state where it will not remain on long enough to install the update".

I got it installed okay, then 10 min after reboot it shutdown again - however I restarted it 30 mins later and it stayed on for the rest of the night. Fingers crossed it will be okay until after the essay is due ;)

Thanks for the help everyone.

Keep app's (and processor intensive) apps down to a minimum to help keep the heat down, however when they get to the point they are shutting down that regular they really are on borrowed time.

Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.

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