Hot New MBP battery

Unlike the old one it runs *extremely* hot all the time.
Danny Thompson wrote on :

A couple of months ago Apple replaced my 18-month old MacBook Pro battery for free under their battery replacement scheme. At the time I was only getting about an hour-and-a-half from the battery.

The relevant thread is there:

<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.comp.sys.mac/browse_thread/thread/4 8eddd1a02016c6b/50191f5efebe1747?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=battery+danny#50191f5ef ebe1747>

I'm not happy with the replacement battery though.

Unlike the old one it runs extremely hot all the time. SMC FanControl reports it as between 81-88 degrees C. That's under no real load at all

  • with the machine idling, and nothing running to speak of.

I'm getting about an hour's battery life.

Activity Monitor shows nothing unusual.

Propping the back of the MBP up with a pencil or similar to increase ventilation makes bugger all difference.

But when I take the battery out the temperature drops to 60-70 degrees C within about 10 seconds.

I'd never experienced temperatures like these with the old battery. With that one the fans barely used to activate. Now they are on all the time.

Coconut Battery reports it as having 93% of original capacity, but 38 load cycles after only two months. This is probably a result of the fact that I keep having to remove the damn thing - something I'd never had to do before.

Before I call Apple can others tell me whether these temperatures are "normal"?

Oh - MBP 15" 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo. 2Gb. 10.5.3

Thanks

Danny

Woody replied on :

Danny Thompson danny@redacted.invalid wrote:

I'm not happy with the replacement battery though.

Unlike the old one it runs extremely hot all the time. SMC FanControl reports it as between 81-88 degrees C. That's under no real load at all

  • with the machine idling, and nothing running to speak of.

Ahh.. from the title I thought you meant it looked really good!

I'm getting about an hour's battery life.

Well, that is wrong.

Activity Monitor shows nothing unusual.

Propping the back of the MBP up with a pencil or similar to increase ventilation makes bugger all difference.

But when I take the battery out the temperature drops to 60-70 degrees C within about 10 seconds.

I downloaded SMC fan control, and my MBP is currently running at 51 degrees, acording to it. Acording to iStat pro, I have:

CPU 51 GPU 45 gpu heatsink 48 heatsink a 47 heatsink b 40 base 29 mem controller 47 mem bank a1 57

If I take the battery out there is no noticable change

I'd never experienced temperatures like these with the old battery. With that one the fans barely used to activate. Now they are on all the time.

Coconut Battery reports it as having 93% of original capacity, but 38 load cycles after only two months. This is probably a result of the fact that I keep having to remove the damn thing - something I'd never had to do before.

Before I call Apple can others tell me whether these temperatures are "normal"?

Much lower than that.

Oh - MBP 15" 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo. 2Gb. 10.5.3

MBP 15" 2.3 intel core 2 duo. 2GB. 10.5.3

Danny Thompson replied on :

Woody usenet@redacted.invalid wrote:

Danny Thompson danny@redacted.invalid wrote:

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Before I call Apple can others tell me whether these temperatures are "normal"?

Much lower than that.

Thanks Woody. That's really helpful.

Danny

zoara replied on :

Woody usenet@redacted.invalid wrote:

Danny Thompson danny@redacted.invalid wrote:

I'm not happy with the replacement battery though.

Unlike the old one it runs extremely hot all the time. SMC FanControl reports it as between 81-88 degrees C. That's under no real load at all

  • with the machine idling, and nothing running to speak of.

Ahh.. from the title I thought you meant it looked really good!

I thought similar!

I downloaded SMC fan control, and my MBP is currently running at 51 degrees, acording to it. Acording to iStat pro, I have:

CPU 51 GPU 45 gpu heatsink 48 heatsink a 47 heatsink b 40 base 29 mem controller 47 mem bank a1 57

iStat Menus now shows the battery temperature, which on mine (idle-ish, recently woken, but with a few CPU-sucking apps running) is 30 deg. The rest is:

CPU 51 Enclosure bottom 31 GPU 41 gpu heatsink 44 heatsink a 42 heatsink b 36 mem bank a1 41 mem controller 33

SMCFanControl agrees with the CPU reading.

Before I call Apple can others tell me whether these temperatures are "normal"?

Much lower than that.

Yeah, I thought mine was hot running at 78-80 degrees under full load for half an hour or so! That's definitely wrong.

Oh - MBP 15" 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo. 2Gb. 10.5.3

MBP 15" 2.3 intel core 2 duo. 2GB. 10.5.3

MBP 15" 2.16 C2D 2GB, 10.5.3

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Andy Hewitt replied on :

zoara me18@redacted.invalid wrote:

Yeah, I thought mine was hot running at 78-80 degrees under full load for half an hour or so! That's definitely wrong.

Oh - MBP 15" 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo. 2Gb. 10.5.3

MBP 15" 2.3 intel core 2 duo. 2GB. 10.5.3

MBP 15" 2.16 C2D 2GB, 10.5.3

My plain MB is runnignat about 30deg, but that's on the power adapter. In any case, I would have thought 80deg was very high for any battery.

Flavio Matani replied on :

Andy Hewitt wildrover.andy@redacted.invalid wrote:

zoara me18@redacted.invalid wrote:

Yeah, I thought mine was hot running at 78-80 degrees under full load for half an hour or so! That's definitely wrong.

Oh - MBP 15" 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo. 2Gb. 10.5.3

MBP 15" 2.3 intel core 2 duo. 2GB. 10.5.3

MBP 15" 2.16 C2D 2GB, 10.5.3

My plain MB is runnignat about 30deg, but that's on the power adapter. In any case, I would have thought 80deg was very high for any battery.

Taking the power adapter out, refreshing about 20 tabs in two browsers and similar, iStat Menus gives me 31 degrees on the battery after five minutes or so of this. 80 on idle is not right.

Pd replied on :

Danny Thompson danny@redacted.invalid wrote:

I'm not happy with the replacement battery though.

Unlike the old one it runs extremely hot all the time. SMC FanControl reports it as between 81-88 degrees C.

Mine's around 45 C.

It ran quite hot (70-80C) for the first couple of months I had it, but I was doing quite a lot of video editing. Now that I'm doing more general and less CPU & graphics intensive stuff, generally seems to run at around 40-50C

Oh - MBP 15" 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo. 2Gb. 10.5.3

MBP 17" 2.6GHz C2D 4GB 10.5.3