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How to make mac shut down faster ?

Message #1 - Posted 2010/04/06 - Tinkerer Atlarge

My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.

Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?

Message #2 - Posted 2010/04/06 - Király

Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:

My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.

Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?

Could it be that it's taking longer to log off than to actually shut down? Try logging out of your primary user account and then shut down from the login window or from a different user account. Is that any faster?

PS shutting a Mac down is really only necessary if you need to remove the battery (laptop) or unplug it (desktop). If you don't need to do either of those, you would probably benefit from using sleep mode instead of shutting down.

K.

Lang may your lum reek.

Message #3 - Posted 2010/04/06 - Erik Richard Sørensen

Király wrote:

Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:

My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.

Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?

Could it be that it's taking longer to log off than to actually shut down? Try logging out of your primary user account and then shut down from the login window or from a different user account. Is that any faster?

PS shutting a Mac down is really only necessary if you need to remove the battery (laptop) or unplug it (desktop). If you don't need to do either of those, you would probably benefit from using sleep mode instead of shutting down.

It looks as if the OP's Mac could be a G4, and then there are lots of problems to let it go to sleep, since sleep isn't supported with mounted extra PCI cards such as USB 2.0, SCSI or Firewire cards...

My guess is that more log and/or cache files are open or very large activity log files are not stored or deleted, caches not emptied, and the temporary files are not deleted at close down. It is known that temp files sometimes can cause this especially on 10.3.x and 10.4.x on G4s. - Some of my friends have the exact same problem with their older dual G4/533mhz, so I'll have to go out there to see, if I'm right about my thoughts.... MainMenu 1.7.4 can delete all these stored caches, temp files and more, - if you can find the ver. 1.7.4 anymore. The new ver. 2.x is no longer freeware.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Message #4 - Posted 2010/04/06 - Jolly Roger

Previously, Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:

My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.

Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?

I'm betting a peek at the /var/log/system.log file would tell you exactly why it's taking so long.

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Message #5 - Posted 2010/04/07 - Tinkerer Atlarge

Király wrote:

Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:

My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.

Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?

Could it be that it's taking longer to log off than to actually shut down? Try logging out of your primary user account and then shut down from the login window or from a different user account. Is that any faster?

Makes no difference.

PS shutting a Mac down is really only necessary if you need to remove the battery (laptop) or unplug it (desktop). If you don't need to do either of those, you would probably benefit from using sleep mode instead of shutting down.

Unfortunately I am currently doing something which requires frequent reboots..

Cheers

Message #6 - Posted 2010/04/07 - Tinkerer Atlarge

Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:

Király wrote:

Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:

My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.

Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?

Could it be that it's taking longer to log off than to actually shut down? Try logging out of your primary user account and then shut down from the login window or from a different user account. Is that any faster?

PS shutting a Mac down is really only necessary if you need to remove the battery (laptop) or unplug it (desktop). If you don't need to do either of those, you would probably benefit from using sleep mode instead of shutting down.

It looks as if the OP's Mac could be a G4, and then there are lots of problems to let it go to sleep, since sleep isn't supported with mounted extra PCI cards such as USB 2.0, SCSI or Firewire cards...

Yes, it's a 1GHz G4.

My guess is that more log and/or cache files are open or very large activity log files are not stored or deleted, caches not emptied, and the temporary files are not deleted at close down. It is known that temp files sometimes can cause this especially on 10.3.x and 10.4.x on G4s. - Some of my friends have the exact same problem with their older dual G4/533mhz, so I'll have to go out there to see, if I'm right about my thoughts.... MainMenu 1.7.4 can delete all these stored caches, temp files and more, - if you can find the ver. 1.7.4 anymore. The new ver. 2.x is no longer freeware.

Cheers, Erik Richard

Thanx. I have now done that. It might have made it shut down a bit faster, but it still seems slow to me.

The longest stretch is after it goes to the blue screen with the little black twirly-gig at the bottom. That lasts about 30 seconds.

Cheers

Message #7 - Posted 2010/04/07 - Tinkerer Atlarge

Jolly Roger wrote:

Previously, Tinkerer Atlarge wrote:

My powerpc mac (OSX 10.4.11) suddenly takes a lot longer to shut down. This might have been caused by auto-updates to Safari 4.0.5 or iTunes 9.1. I can't think of any other reason.

Does anyone know a way to make it shut down faster ?

I'm betting a peek at the /var/log/system.log file would tell you exactly why it's taking so long.

Here is all I can find in /var/log/system.log relating to the previous shut-down. It doesn't seem to cover anything like the 30 seconds of blue screen with little black twirly-gig at bottom. Maybe you can spot something:

Apr 7 11:23:07 eMac /Library/Application Support/Symantec/Scheduler/SymSecondaryLaunch.app/Contents/NortonMissedT asks: uid 501 already done\n

Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp (HOMERunner): AESendMessage returned error -609

Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp (N124U_ButtonManager): AESendMessage returned error -609

Apr 7 11:27:01 eMac loginwindow[167]: sendQuitEventToApp (N067U_ButtonManager): AESendMessage returned error -609

Apr 7 11:27:02 eMac shutdown: halt by tinkerer:

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: authentication service (264) did not complete successfully

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac kernel[0]: jnl: close: flushing the buffer cache (start 0x6d2e00 end 0x6d6000)

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: File Deletion Tracking (256) did not complete successfully

Apr 7 11:27:03 eMac SystemStarter[248]: SymDC Extension Selection (276) did not complete successfully

Apr 7 11:28:31 localhost kernel[0]: standard timeslicing quantum is 10000 us ...

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