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Itunes stops when system goes to sleep

Message #1 - Posted 2002/01/03 - Keith Cannataro

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Message #2 - Posted 2002/01/03 - asif

Keith Cannataro wrote:

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Doesn't happen on this Tibook running X.1.2 or the home 9500 running 9.1. The screen dimmer kicks in after the preset time, but the machines never go to sleep with iTunes running.

/whatever

Message #3 - Posted 2002/01/03 - James Wright

in article B859F5A5.4CAF%mrhoni@pacbell.net, Keith Cannataro at mrhoni@pacbell.net wrote on 1/3/02 2:48 PM:

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Nope. That's how it works.

Jim

Message #4 - Posted 2002/01/03 - George

Have you tried setting the energy saver to just screen dimming, and leaving the "spin down hard disk on NEVER"? It should work then, plus leaving your HD spinning all the time probably increases the life of your hard disk per many "gurus" who I've spoken with (and it probably doesn't waste much electricity).

Keith Cannataro wrote:

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Message #5 - Posted 2002/01/04 - Charles Martin

Previously, Keith Cannataro wrote:

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Sure! Put the SCREEN to sleep, not the whole system. Obviously iTunes can't work if the hard drive is put to sleep!

_Chas_
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Message #6 - Posted 2002/01/04 - GrapeApe

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Sleep preferences DO monitor system activity, else it would not know when to 'sleep. 'When iTunes is running, the mac IS doing something, even if its listening to internet radio. If iTunes is playing stored MP3s the disc will be accessed more frequently than most people ever set their sleep settings.

You don't want SLEEP as much as you want a SCREENSAVER, something that will merely turn off the monitor. Heck most monitors have a thing called a POWER SWITCH that would suffice, for turning off the nightlight of your monitor. Personlally, I would merely keep iTunes Visualizer going if I were using the thing as a passive audio playback device.

Message #7 - Posted 2002/01/04 - Jim

Hmm, my Control Panel/Energy Saver doesn't have dimmer and HD spinner features. Am I looking in the wrong place? G4/OS 9.2.2/NC 4.79.

Jim from Hilton Head

George wrote:

Have you tried setting the energy saver to just screen dimming, and leaving the "spin down hard disk on NEVER"? It should work then, plus leaving your HD spinning all the time probably increases the life of your hard disk per many "gurus" who I've spoken with (and it probably doesn't waste much electricity).

Keith Cannataro wrote:

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Message #8 - Posted 2002/01/05 - Charles Martin

Previously, Jim wrote:

Hmm, my Control Panel/Energy Saver doesn't have dimmer and HD spinner features. Am I looking in the wrong place? G4/OS 9.2.2/NC 4.79.

Yes, it does. There's a little pyramid in your Energy Saver control panel. Click on it and it will turn down the page to reveal "advanced" settings. --
_Chas_
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Message #9 - Posted 2002/01/05 - Jim

Back atcha, Charles -- my 9.2.2 Energy Saver control panel does not have a pyramid. There is an Advanced Setting tab but it doesn't have the dimmer and spinner. What OS are you using?

Jim from Hilton Head

Charles Martin wrote:

Previously, Jim wrote:

Hmm, my Control Panel/Energy Saver doesn't have dimmer and HD spinner features. Am I looking in the wrong place? G4/OS 9.2.2/NC 4.79.

Yes, it does. There's a little pyramid in your Energy Saver control panel. Click on it and it will turn down the page to reveal "advanced" settings. --
_Chas_
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Message #10 - Posted 2002/01/06 - Charles Martin

Previously, Jim wrote:

Back atcha, Charles -- my 9.2.2 Energy Saver control panel does not have a pyramid. There is an Advanced Setting tab but it doesn't have the dimmer and spinner. What OS are you using?

At the moment, 9.1. I don't have my energy saver panel installed so I was going from memory.

What DO you see under the advanced tab then?

_Chas_
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Message #11 - Posted 2002/01/06 - William E. Krantz, Jr.

I've been investigating this same issue, but with SETI@home. My G4 Cube originally had Mac OS 9.0.4 and the processor would stay awake until the current SETI work unit finished and then shut down after the delay set in the Energy Saver control panel.

I've now applied all the firmware updates and updated to Mac OS 9.2.2. Now the system shuts down in the middle of a work unit. The problem seems to be that the definition of "system activity" has been changed in the OS.

Solution: After some trial and error, I found that I can make it work the original way by using the shareware Sleeper control panel along with the Energy Saver control panel. I set the Energy Saver to sleep the display and the disk and then set the processor sleep to "Never". Then in Sleeper I turn off the display and disk sleeps and set the processor sleep to 30 minutes.

As a result, the Energy Saver control panel sleeps the display and disk at 25 minutes and the Sleeper control panel starts initiating its processor sleep setting at 30 minutes. Sleeper *does* recognize the SETI work unit as "system activity" and only sleeps the processor 30 minutes after the work unit completes.

Hope this solution works with itunes in your case as well.

Bill Krantz

Previously, Keith Cannataro wrote:

I was surprised when this happened. Sleep preferences don't monitor system activity so as far as I know I have to turn the Sleep setting to Never if I want to listen to music on the Mac > than my standard go to sleep if no activity for 20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Message #12 - Posted 2002/01/06 - Jim

This whole thread has been from your memory???

Most of us here who offer advice don't do it from faulty memory. We actually look at the function we're describing.

Jim from Hilton Head

Charles Martin wrote:

Previously, Jim wrote:

Back atcha, Charles -- my 9.2.2 Energy Saver control panel does not have a pyramid. There is an Advanced Setting tab but it doesn't have the dimmer and spinner. What OS are you using?

At the moment, 9.1. I don't have my energy saver panel installed so I was going from memory.

What DO you see under the advanced tab then?
--
_Chas_
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Message #13 - Posted 2002/01/06 - Enough

Previously, Jim wrote:

This whole thread has been from your memory???

Most of us here who offer advice don't do it from faulty memory. We actually look at the function we're describing.

And how do we get PAID for doing that for you?

You get what you pay for, bozo.

Enough <enough@idontcare.com>

Message #14 - Posted 2002/01/06 - Keith Cannataro

I'm now up to 10.1.2. In the energy saver settings, there is no advanced tab. Its been awhile since I had played with energy saver in pre OSX and I had thought that there was a choice for system activty?

in article rNTZ7.287661$Ga5.50377830@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com, Charles Martin at rubbish@bollocks.org wrote on 1/6/02 12:20 AM:

Previously, Jim wrote:

Back atcha, Charles -- my 9.2.2 Energy Saver control panel does not have a pyramid. There is an Advanced Setting tab but it doesn't have the dimmer and spinner. What OS are you using?

At the moment, 9.1. I don't have my energy saver panel installed so I was going from memory.

What DO you see under the advanced tab then?

Message #15 - Posted 2002/01/07 - Charles Martin

Previously, Charles Martin wrote:

Previously, Jim wrote:

Back atcha, Charles -- my 9.2.2 Energy Saver control panel does not have a pyramid. There is an Advanced Setting tab but it doesn't have the dimmer and spinner. What OS are you using?

At the moment, 9.1. I don't have my energy saver panel installed so I was going from memory.

What DO you see under the advanced tab then?

Following myself up now that I have the relevant machine at hand.

My error, and I'm sorry: in 9.1 and 9.2, when you first open Energy Saver you are on a "tab" called "sleep settings." At the bottom of that pane is a button called "Show Details."

This is where you will find the dimming and HD sleep options. If you need help, press the question mark button in the window.

_Chas_
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Message #16 - Posted 2002/01/07 - Charles Martin

Previously, Jim wrote:

This whole thread has been from your memory???

Most of us here who offer advice don't do it from faulty memory. We actually look at the function we're describing.

Jim from Hilton Head

I usually do as well. This'll teach me. :)

_Chas_
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Message #17 - Posted 2002/01/07 - Daniel Cohen

Keith Cannataro wrote:

I'm now up to 10.1.2. In the energy saver settings, there is no advanced tab. Its been awhile since I had played with energy saver in pre OSX and I had thought that there was a choice for system activty?

I've just looked at Energy Saver under 9.1. The advanced tab isn't relevant, but "show details" offers separate choices for monitor, hard disk, and system sleep.

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