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MacBook Pro doesn't like waking up

Message #1 - Posted 2008/02/26 - Jeanne

I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often - but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.

I did a web search and found this page:

http://www.windley.com/archives/2007/10/fixing_macbook_pro_sleep_problems.shtml

I followed its advice and changed the hibernatemode to 0; I thought that would fix the problem, but it didn't. So, any ideas for what to try next?

Jeanne

Message #2 - Posted 2008/02/26 - Lewis

Previously, Jeanne wrote:

I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often - but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.

I close the lid again for about 30s and open it. Seems to work.

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Message #3 - Posted 2008/02/26 - Jolly Roger

Previously, Lewis wrote:

Previously, Jeanne wrote:

I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often - but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.

I close the lid again for about 30s and open it. Seems to work.

Same here. Only more often I am too impatient to wait 30 seconds, so I simply count to ten and pop it open again. That usually does the trick.

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Message #4 - Posted 2008/02/27 - Randy Howard

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:36:16 -0600, Jolly Roger wrote (in a previous article):

Previously, Lewis wrote:

Previously, Jeanne wrote:

I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often - but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.

I close the lid again for about 30s and open it. Seems to work.

Same here. Only more often I am too impatient to wait 30 seconds, so I simply count to ten and pop it open again. That usually does the trick.

Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.

It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is suspended. If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems much more likely to do this.

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Message #5 - Posted 2008/02/27 - Doug Anderson

Randy Howard <randyhoward@FOOverizonBAR.net> writes:

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:36:16 -0600, Jolly Roger wrote (in a previous article):

Previously, Lewis wrote:

Previously, Jeanne wrote:

I frequently put my MacBook Pro to sleep by closing the lid. Often - but not always - when I open the lid, it makes a noise like the disk waking up, but the screen stays dark. I can't find the right buttons to push to make it light up, and usually I end up doing a hard reboot.

I close the lid again for about 30s and open it. Seems to work.

Same here. Only more often I am too impatient to wait 30 seconds, so I simply count to ten and pop it open again. That usually does the trick.

Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.

It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is suspended. If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems much more likely to do this.

I haven't had this. I have had the following: I close the lid, and then realize almost immediately I wasn't done, and open the lid again.

Then the machine is in some strange state (maybe just still asleep). If I wait a few seconds and hit a key, or maybe click on the mouse (I foret which), it wakes up.

Message #6 - Posted 2008/02/27 - Jeanne

On Feb 27, 11:00=A0am, Randy Howard wrote:

Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.

It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is suspended. =A0If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems much more likely to do this.

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Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those =A0who have not got it." =A0- George Bernard Shaw

I wish it were that simple, but this generally happens when it's been plugged in the whole time, typically after I put it to sleep overnight. Ah well, next time it happens I'll try the 30-second thing.

Jeanne

Message #7 - Posted 2008/02/27 - Dave Fritzinger

On Feb 27, 8:07=A0am, Doug Anderson wrote:

Randy Howard <randyhow...@FOOverizonBAR.net> writes:

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:36:16 -0600, Jolly Roger wrote (in a previous article):

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Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.

It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is suspended. =A0If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems much more likely to do this.

I haven't had this. =A0I have had the following: =A0I close the lid, and then realize almost immediately I wasn't done, and open the lid again.

Then the machine is in some strange state (maybe just still asleep). If I wait a few seconds and hit a key, or maybe click on the mouse (I foret which), it wakes up.

I've seen 2 conditions where my MBP (15.4"/1.83 CD) has refused to wake up. The first, and easier case, is if I do what Doug mentioned above. I've found that, if I close the lid, and wait until the "sleep light" starts to cycle, I can open the lid and all is well. The second has been harder to overcome. If, with the lid closed, I plug in a USB device, I have been unable to get the computer to wake up again. Perhaps because it is getting mixed signals (plugging in the USB device tells it to wake up, while having the lid closed says go to sleep). Anyway, the couple of times this has happened, I found I had to restart the MBP.
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Message #8 - Posted 2008/02/28 - Randy Howard

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:15:55 -0600, Jeanne wrote (in a previous article):

On Feb 27, 11:00†am, Randy Howard wrote:

Nevermind that it shouldn't happen at all.

It seems to be related to changing power adapter state while it is suspended. †If you have it plugged into the brick when you close the lid, and remove it before opening it again, or vice versa, it seems much more likely to do this.

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Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those †who have not got it." †- George Bernard Shaw

I wish it were that simple, but this generally happens when it's been plugged in the whole time, typically after I put it to sleep overnight. Ah well, next time it happens I'll try the 30-second thing.

Suffice it to say that the macbook pro power management firmware is borked. There are a number of different ways to trip into wakeup issues, the one I posted above was the one I've found is easiest to reproduce on my system.

I bought mine very early, and I'm more than a bit miffed that all this time later it still hasn't been addressed.

Randy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR)
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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