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MacBook Pro sleeping problems

Message #1 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Stephen Benentt

Hi all

One of the things I've always loved about Mac laptops (that was always flakey on Windows) was the fact that you close them, they go to sleep, you open them they work. My old iBook, PowerBook and (until recently) MacBook Pro always worked fine in this fashion. It's a Core duo one, 5 months old.

Recently (maybe after the latest OS update?) I closed the Pro, the sleep light purred, display went off and I bagged the computer. When I opened my bag a few hours later the Mac was very hot, fans whirring. I've tried resetting the PRAM and doing the latest firmware update but with no luck. I can sleep the Mac properly from the menu but I can't always remember to do that, can I? I'm a close and go man.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Regards

Stephen

Message #2 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Ian McCall

On 2006-11-16 09:18:17 +0000, Stephen Benentt said:

Recently (maybe after the latest OS update?) I closed the Pro, the sleep light purred, display went off and I bagged the computer. When I opened my bag a few hours later the Mac was very hot, fans whirring....Has anyone else had this problem?

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

Cheers,
Ian

Message #3 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Stephen Benentt

"Ian McCall" <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in message news:4s2pf6FtmvucU1@mid.individual.net...

On 2006-11-16 09:18:17 +0000, Stephen Benentt said:

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

I did that. No luck, though it seems to sleep about 5% of the time with the lid closed now.

-(

Stephen

Message #4 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Peter Ceresole

Stephen Benentt wrote:

Recently (maybe after the latest OS update?) I closed the Pro, the sleep light purred, display went off and I bagged the computer. When I opened my bag a few hours later the Mac was very hot, fans whirring.

Flavio- this happened to you, didn't it?

Did you sort it out?

Peter

Message #5 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Mr B;

Stephen Benentt schreef:

"Ian McCall" <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in message news:4s2pf6FtmvucU1@mid.individual.net...

On 2006-11-16 09:18:17 +0000, Stephen Benentt said:

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

I did that. No luck, though it seems to sleep about 5% of the time with the lid closed now.

-(

Have you tried the new firmware update?

B;

Message #6 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Rexx Magnus

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:57:53 GMT, Stephen Benentt wrote:

"Ian McCall" <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in message news:4s2pf6FtmvucU1@mid.individual.net...

On 2006-11-16 09:18:17 +0000, Stephen Benentt said:

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

I did that. No luck, though it seems to sleep about 5% of the time with the lid closed now.

-(

Stephen

Is there anything running (like a service) that might cause it to wake spontaneously? I did have trouble making the machine sleep when the powersaving kicked in, but that seems to have fixed itself now.

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Message #7 - Posted 2006/11/16 - zoara

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:18:17 -0000, Stephen Benentt wrote:

Recently (maybe after the latest OS update?) I closed the Pro, the sleep light purred, display went off and I bagged the computer. When I opened my bag a few hours later the Mac was very hot, fans whirring.

Are you using Missing Sync and/or Omniweb by any chance?

-z-

Message #8 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Stephen Benentt

"Mr B;" <jeremyrh.geo@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day
and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues
that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

I did that. No luck, though it seems to sleep about 5% of the time with the
lid closed now.

-(

Have you tried the new firmware update?

B;

Yes! that's what I said above!

-)

Regards

Message #9 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Stephen Benentt

"Rexx Magnus" <trashcan@uk2.net> wrote in message news:Xns987D6ECEEAD24rexxdeansaund@130.133.1.4...

Is there anything running (like a service) that might cause it to wake spontaneously? I did have trouble making the machine sleep when the powersaving kicked in, but that seems to have fixed itself now.

--

Nothing unusual. Any suggestions?

Regards

Message #10 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Stephen Benentt

"zoara" <me17@privacy.net> wrote in message news:rp4h14lbremt.1xpgorad9p2l5.dlg@40tude.net...

Are you using Missing Sync and/or Omniweb by any chance?

-z-

Nope:-(

Regards

Message #11 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Rexx Magnus

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:12:09 GMT, Stephen Benentt wrote:

"Rexx Magnus" <trashcan@uk2.net> wrote in message news:Xns987D6ECEEAD24rexxdeansaund@130.133.1.4...

Is there anything running (like a service) that might cause it to wake spontaneously? I did have trouble making the machine sleep when the powersaving kicked in, but that seems to have fixed itself now.

--

Nothing unusual. Any suggestions?

Regards

Check the system logs in console, just to see if there are any wake events that might show up.

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Message #12 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Mr B;

Stephen Benentt schreef:

"Mr B;" <jeremyrh.geo@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day
and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues
that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

I did that. No luck, though it seems to sleep about 5% of the time with the
lid closed now.

-(

Have you tried the new firmware update?

B;

Yes! that's what I said above!

Dooohhh !!!! :-)

Message #13 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Stephen Benentt

"Rexx Magnus" <trashcan@uk2.net> wrote in message news:Xns987D7F954FB5Crexxdeansaund@130.133.1.4...

Check the system logs in console, just to see if there are any wake events that might show up.

--

Nothing there:-(

Regards

Stephen

Message #14 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Mike Connally

Previously, Stephen Benentt wrote:

Has anyone else had this problem?

<aol>
Yep. Sad to hear that FW 1.2 doesn't help.
</aol>

Mike Connally
Had to take action 'against spam'. Remove those words to reply.

Message #15 - Posted 2006/11/16 - Keith Clarke

Previously, Stephen Benentt wrote:

Recently (maybe after the latest OS update?) I closed the Pro, the sleep light purred, display went off and I bagged the computer. When I opened my bag a few hours later the Mac was very hot, fans whirring. I've tried resetting the PRAM and doing the latest firmware update but with no luck. I can sleep the Mac properly from the menu but I can't always remember to do that, can I? I'm a close and go man.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Not personal experience, but one of my users had exactly this problem. She eventually got a replacement motherboard (in the States). She told me:

The saga with Apple continues. After logging more than a dozen instances of my Macbook turning itself on when shut down, and taking it back to Apple 4 times, the last Genius I saw admitted that he had two other customers with the same problem. After examining the log, he said he thought it was a faulty logic board.

This was very recent so I don't yet know if it's fixed it.

Keith

Message #16 - Posted 2006/11/17 - Flavio Matani

Peter Ceresole wrote:

Stephen Benentt wrote:

Recently (maybe after the latest OS update?) I closed the Pro, the sleep light purred, display went off and I bagged the computer. When I opened my bag a few hours later the Mac was very hot, fans whirring.

Flavio- this happened to you, didn't it?

It did, you were there.

Did you sort it out?

It never happened again -and, silly me, I forgot about it. Then it happened a second time today. Must look into this. Won't have time to do tomorrow; if it is happening to other people and happened to me a second time it's not a one-off thing.

flavio matani
guitar tuition
homepage.mac.com/flavio_matani/guitar/ www.livejournal.com/users/flavius_m/

Message #17 - Posted 2006/11/17 - Flavio Matani

Stephen Benentt wrote:

"Ian McCall" <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in message news:4s2pf6FtmvucU1@mid.individual.net...

On 2006-11-16 09:18:17 +0000, Stephen Benentt said:

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

I did that. No luck, though it seems to sleep about 5% of the time with the lid closed now.

My MacBook has done this twice, the second time only today, the firmware update having been applied when it came out -a few days ago?

flavio matani
guitar tuition
homepage.mac.com/flavio_matani/guitar/ www.livejournal.com/users/flavius_m/

Message #18 - Posted 2006/11/20 - Stephen Benentt

Everyone wrote:

Thanks for all your replies. This is really annoying; My Macbook Pro is behaving like a Windows notebook:-(((

As it started recently and others have the same symptoms, I'm sure it's a software problem. I'll hang on before contacting Apple.

Regards

Stephen

Message #19 - Posted 2006/11/20 - Flavio Matani

Flavio Matani wrote:

Stephen Benentt wrote:

"Ian McCall" <ian@eruvia.org> wrote in message news:4s2pf6FtmvucU1@mid.individual.net...

On 2006-11-16 09:18:17 +0000, Stephen Benentt said:

Yes, not often but a couple of times. Firmware 1.2 came out the other day and it explicitly mentions problems with sleeping/waking as being issues that are addressed. Might be worth applying it if you haven't done so already.

I did that. No luck, though it seems to sleep about 5% of the time with the lid closed now.

My MacBook has done this twice, the second time only today, the firmware update having been applied when it came out -a few days ago?

I think I can trace the second one to having left Parallels running as I closed the lid and took the machine away, that is the only thing I have done on that occasion that I do not normally do.

flavio matani
guitar tuition
homepage.mac.com/flavio_matani/guitar/ www.livejournal.com/users/flavius_m/

Message #20 - Posted 2006/11/20 - Edd

<snips the lengthy discussion>

Mine's started being annoying like this too. Can't trace it to a software problem.

Anyone else finding it sleeps from the apple menu fine but not on closing the lid?

Edd

Message #21 - Posted 2006/11/20 - Rexx Magnus

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:07:38 GMT, Edd wrote:

<snips the lengthy discussion>

Mine's started being annoying like this too. Can't trace it to a software problem.

Anyone else finding it sleeps from the apple menu fine but not on closing the lid?

Mine only doesn't sleep when the lid is closed if I've been running it with the lid shut first (waking with keyboard). It won't sleep when you close it - but if you wake it when it's open, it will subsequently sleep when the lid is then closed.

It's started to behave erratically when sleeping due to timed standby now.

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Message #22 - Posted 2006/11/20 - Edd

Rexx Magnus wrote:

Mine only doesn't sleep when the lid is closed if I've been running it with the lid shut first (waking with keyboard). It won't sleep when you close it - but if you wake it when it's open, it will subsequently sleep when the lid is then closed.

Well I don't use an external keyboard, so it ain't that for me --
Edd

Message #23 - Posted 2006/11/21 - Stephen Benentt

"Edd" <eddedmondson@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ejscra$56u$1@frank-exchange-of-views.oucs.ox.ac.uk...

Anyone else finding it sleeps from the apple menu fine but not on closing the lid?

Yep. And from the power button.

Regards

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