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power button query

Message #1 - Posted 2005/01/25 - GfA

Hi all,

I have a close friend who is handicapped and has an old imac g3 with the power button on the front. He can manage this. However the trend lately is to put the power buttons on the back, making them inaccessible to him.

My question, is this. Can you put one of those old keyboard with the power button on a newer imac g5 and power it up from the keyboard? Or is my handicapped friend stuck with the old g3 imac?

Any info would be most helpful, he wants to update.

Message #2 - Posted 2005/01/25 - Tom Harrington

Previously, GfA wrote:

Hi all,

I have a close friend who is handicapped and has an old imac g3 with the power button on the front. He can manage this. However the trend lately is to put the power buttons on the back, making them inaccessible to him.

My question, is this. Can you put one of those old keyboard with the power button on a newer imac g5 and power it up from the keyboard? Or is my handicapped friend stuck with the old g3 imac?

Any info would be most helpful, he wants to update.

If the keyboard has a power button on it, it should continue to work on a G5 just as it does on his G3. If for some reason it doesn't (and I can't imagine why it would fail), one of Apple's newer keyboards would do the trick, and only set him back an additional $29.

Tom "Tom" Harrington
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Message #3 - Posted 2005/01/26 - Roger Johnstone

In Tom Harrington wrote:

Previously, GfA wrote:

Hi all,

I have a close friend who is handicapped and has an old imac g3 with the power button on the front. He can manage this. However the trend lately is to put the power buttons on the back, making them inaccessible to him. My question, is this. Can you put one of those old keyboard with the power button on a newer imac g5 and power it up from the keyboard? Or is my handicapped friend stuck with the old g3 imac? Any info would be most helpful, he wants to update.

If the keyboard has a power button on it, it should continue to work on a G5 just as it does on his G3. If for some reason it doesn't ( and I can't imagine why it would fail), one of Apple's newer keyboards would do the trick, and only set him back an additional $29.

I'm assuming the original poster's friend wants to be able to start an iMac G5 from the keyboard. The original Apple USB Keyboards have a power button on them and can start the Mac from cold, but the newer Pro keyboards don't have power buttons on them. The older Macs also had special support on the USB ports to allow them to be started from a keyboard. I heard this support was still there with later Macs which shipped with the Pro keyboards, but it may have been dropped by now. You would just have to try it and see if it works.

The other way is to just never turn off the the computer, and use sleep mode instead. Unlike the original iMacs all the current Macs have a true deep sleep mode, where they use very little power and are silent.

Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand
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Kryten, from the Red Dwarf episode "The Last Day"

Message #4 - Posted 2005/01/26 - Matthew Russotto

Previously, Tom Harrington wrote:

Previously, GfA wrote:

Hi all,

I have a close friend who is handicapped and has an old imac g3 with the power button on the front. He can manage this. However the trend lately is to put the power buttons on the back, making them inaccessible to him.

My question, is this. Can you put one of those old keyboard with the power button on a newer imac g5 and power it up from the keyboard? Or is my handicapped friend stuck with the old g3 imac?

Any info would be most helpful, he wants to update.

If the keyboard has a power button on it, it should continue to work on a G5 just as it does on his G3. If for some reason it doesn't (and I can't imagine why it would fail), one of Apple's newer keyboards would do the trick, and only set him back an additional $29.

Nyet. Apple discontinued the keyboard-power-on trick at some point, because it violates the USB standard. Before that, they removed the key from their keyboards (my Quicksilver came with a keyboard lacking the key but the feature is still implemented)

But doesn't the new iMac G5 have the switch up front like the displays do? Hmm... no, I guess not. My best idea involves a bracket, some glue, and a camera remote shutter release cable.

Message #5 - Posted 2005/01/26 - GfA

in article ju2dnabjT-DXcmrcRVn-jQ@speakeasy.net, Matthew Russotto wrote on 1/26/2005 2:28 PM:

Previously, Tom Harrington wrote:

Previously, GfA wrote:

Hi all,

I have a close friend who is handicapped and has an old imac g3 with the power button on the front. He can manage this. However the trend lately is to put the power buttons on the back, making them inaccessible to him.

My question, is this. Can you put one of those old keyboard with the power button on a newer imac g5 and power it up from the keyboard? Or is my handicapped friend stuck with the old g3 imac?

Any info would be most helpful, he wants to update.

If the keyboard has a power button on it, it should continue to work on a G5 just as it does on his G3. If for some reason it doesn't (and I can't imagine why it would fail), one of Apple's newer keyboards would do the trick, and only set him back an additional $29.

Nyet. Apple discontinued the keyboard-power-on trick at some point, because it violates the USB standard. Before that, they removed the key from their keyboards (my Quicksilver came with a keyboard lacking the key but the feature is still implemented)

But doesn't the new iMac G5 have the switch up front like the displays do? Hmm... no, I guess not. My best idea involves a bracket, some glue, and a camera remote shutter release cable.

Thanks for the replies. Even the clever one. ;-)
Guess one just has to try it.

Message #6 - Posted 2005/01/26 - Huan

On 2005-01-26, GfA <lp@mint.org> wrote in <BE1D70BE.D7DA%lp@mint.org>:

in article ju2dnabjT-DXcmrcRVn-jQ@speakeasy.net, Matthew Russotto wrote on 1/26/2005 2:28 PM:

[snip]

But doesn't the new iMac G5 have the switch up front like the displays do? Hmm... no, I guess not. My best idea involves a bracket, some glue, and a camera remote shutter release cable.

Thanks for the replies. Even the clever one. ;-)
Guess one just has to try it.

Try an iMac G4 that looks like a strange lamp, because the screen swivels through a large angle. Although many people would choose to set it on the desk so that the cd tray opens toward them, you could set the base so that the cd tray opens to the right. That position would have the power button nearly in front of you, just a little to the left. Swivel the screen around so it is right in front of you, and there you go!

Huan

Message #7 - Posted 2005/01/27 - Wayne C. Morris

Previously, Huan wrote:

On 2005-01-26, GfA <lp@mint.org> wrote in <BE1D70BE.D7DA%lp@mint.org>:

in article ju2dnabjT-DXcmrcRVn-jQ@speakeasy.net, Matthew Russotto wrote on 1/26/2005 2:28 PM:

[snip]

But doesn't the new iMac G5 have the switch up front like the displays do? Hmm... no, I guess not. My best idea involves a bracket, some glue, and a camera remote shutter release cable.

Instead of a shutter release cable, I'd use a lever with knobs, positioned so that one arm/know passes under the bottom of the screen. Press it from the front, and the other arm of the lever pushes the power button.

I'd also use some kind of clamps instead of glue to hold it in place, so it could be removed for servicing.

Thanks for the replies. Even the clever one. ;-) Guess one just has to try it.

Try an iMac G4 that looks like a strange lamp, because the screen swivels through a large angle. Although many people would choose to set it on the desk so that the cd tray opens toward them, you could set the base so that the cd tray opens to the right. That position would have the power button nearly in front of you, just a little to the left. Swivel the screen around so it is right in front of you, and there you go!

Or put the Mac on a lazy susan, so you can turn it around to reach the power button. Maybe add some cable ties to the lazy susan and the desk to ensure there's just enough slack to allow it to be turned without the cables getting yanked out or caught on something. It should work for a number of Mac models, including the Mini.

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