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Safe Sleep mode

Message #1 - Posted 2005/11/02 - zoaran substitute
Message #2 - Posted 2005/11/02 - Steve

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, zoaran substitute wrote:

Oooh.

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

-zs-

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

Regards,
Steve

"...which means he created the heaven and the earth... in the DARK! How good is that?"

Message #3 - Posted 2005/11/02 - Tim Auton

Steve wrote:

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, zoaran substitute wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

Tim

Shares are your votes in a pigologocracy.

Message #4 - Posted 2005/11/02 - Chris Ridd

On 2/11/05 8:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@4ax.com, Tim Auton wrote:

Steve wrote:

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, zoaran substitute wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #5 - Posted 2005/11/02 - Bonge Boo!

On 2/11/05 20:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@4ax.com, Tim Auton wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

Probably because they are testing it on a smallish number of people.

OS 9 was intended to have hibernation support. They pulled it very quickly as it was crap.

Message #6 - Posted 2005/11/02 - Steve

On 2/11/05 20:25, in article BF8ED142.11757D%chrisridd@mac.com, Chris Ridd wrote:

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

Until you suffer a power failure...

Regards,
Steve

"...which means he created the heaven and the earth... in the DARK! How good is that?"

Message #7 - Posted 2005/11/02 - Woody

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2/11/05 8:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@4ax.com, Tim Auton wrote:

Steve wrote:

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, zoaran substitute wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

I have been waiting for hibernate for ages. Yes, sleep works better than it does on windows, but that doesn't mean that hibernate should have been left out

Woody
Alienrat Design Ltd

Message #8 - Posted 2005/11/02 - zoara

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2/11/05 8:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@4ax.com, Tim Auton wrote:

Steve wrote:

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :)

Yeah, I thought that, too. But it's by Apple, so of course it's *infinitely* better.

I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

"Buy our new machines..."

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

Battery life isn't infinite?

It's not like Windows in that you choose hibernate or sleep. It *always* suspends to disk, but if the battery stays charged, when it wakes up it discards that suspend info and wakes - instantly - from RAM, as normal. But if the battery runs out of charge, it will (when recharged) use the suspend info to wake from hibernate.

So you can use the laptop right up to the "I'm gonna sleep now!" warning, without having to reserve any because it might be several hours/days before you next get power. No need to worry about losing power.

It's a safety net.

-z-

6th June 2005: Hell freezes over.
2nd August 2005: Hell freezes over *again*.

Message #9 - Posted 2005/11/03 - Woody

zoara wrote:

It's not like Windows in that you choose hibernate or sleep. It *always* suspends to disk, but if the battery stays charged, when it wakes up it discards that suspend info and wakes - instantly - from RAM, as normal. But if the battery runs out of charge, it will (when recharged) use the suspend info to wake from hibernate.

So you can use the laptop right up to the "I'm gonna sleep now!" warning, without having to reserve any because it might be several hours/days before you next get power. No need to worry about losing power.

Bugger - I thought it was a choice.

Woody

www.alienrat.com

Message #10 - Posted 2005/11/03 - Chris Ridd

On 2/11/05 10:18, in article 1h5f6rt.1gl97puro264gN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk, Woody wrote:

Chris Ridd wrote:

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

I have been waiting for hibernate for ages. Yes, sleep works better than it does on windows, but that doesn't mean that hibernate should have been left out

No, but as a feature it doesn't feel particularly *essential*.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #11 - Posted 2005/11/03 - Woody

Chris Ridd wrote:

On 2/11/05 10:18, in article 1h5f6rt.1gl97puro264gN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk, Woody wrote:

Chris Ridd wrote:

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

I have been waiting for hibernate for ages. Yes, sleep works better than it does on windows, but that doesn't mean that hibernate should have been left out

No, but as a feature it doesn't feel particularly *essential*.

Always annoyed me - although if it isn't selectable then it probably isn't worth having anyway.

Woody

www.alienrat.com

Message #12 - Posted 2005/11/03 - zoara

Woody wrote:

zoara wrote:

It's not like Windows in that you choose hibernate or sleep. It *always* suspends to disk, but if the battery stays charged, when it wakes up it discards that suspend info and wakes - instantly - from RAM, as normal. But if the battery runs out of charge, it will (when recharged) use the suspend info to wake from hibernate.

So you can use the laptop right up to the "I'm gonna sleep now!" warning, without having to reserve any because it might be several hours/days before you next get power. No need to worry about losing power.

Bugger - I thought it was a choice.

I'm sure third parties will step in.

-z-

6th June 2005: Hell freezes over.
2nd August 2005: Hell freezes over *again*.

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