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Sleep/Finder crash fixed with 10.0.4?

Message #1 - Posted 2001/06/24 - Kevin Craig

I haven't had time yet to fully decide if the sleep crashes I was experiencing have gone away with 10.0.4, but so far I haven't had a single occurence.

(FTR, I was having the "gray screen" problem on my B&W 350. When I came back to my Mac after it had gone to sleep, I could tell if it was going to be "grayed out" or not, by the glowing blue of my Logitech MouseMan Wheel optical mouse. If it was still lit up, Finder crash; if not, true "sleep", with no crash.)

I do notice, however, that it doesn't seem to go into true sleep mode, and that might be a workaround applied in 10.0.4. Instead of an orange power button on the CPU, and dark mouse, when the computer supposedly sleeps I still have a green power button and a blue-light mouse. Wake-up is very very fast, which adds to my thoughts about whether it's truly sleeping or not. I haven't yet tested putting it to sleep manually.

But, as I said... a weekend with the kids disrupts my normal usage patterns, so I'll have to spend a week with 10.0.4 to see if the change if real or not. Here's hoping...

Kevin

Message #2 - Posted 2001/06/24 -

(FTR, I was having the "gray screen" problem on my B&W 350. When I came back to my Mac after it had gone to sleep, I could tell if it was going to be "grayed out" or not, by the glowing blue of my Logitech MouseMan Wheel optical mouse. If it was still lit up, Finder crash; if not, true "sleep", with no crash.)

I believe the community is calling this bug the 'coma bug'. I too have been experiencing it on my new white iBook with OSX.

I haven't had time yet to fully decide if the sleep crashes I was experiencing have gone away with 10.0.4, but so far I haven't had a single occurence.

I did have one occurance when I tested it just after updating to 10.0.4. I haven't had a problem since, but I also haven't really tested it for fear of having to reboot everytime. I've lost all confidence in the sleep function with my new iBook. The old iBook I had (300MHz blueberry) used to sleep fine in OSX, and it was a really useful thing to be able to just spontanously stop what I was doing and close the lid, knowing my work would be there again in the future. I don't have the same confidence in OSX with my new iBook.

I do notice, however, that it doesn't seem to go into true sleep mode, and that might be a workaround applied in 10.0.4.

The sleep mode I'm experiencing seems to be exactly the same as before. Apparently, Apple changed something in an attempt to prolong the battery life of sleep-ing laptops.

Message #3 - Posted 2001/06/24 - Craig Pugsley

I did have one occurance when I tested it just after updating to 10.0.4. I haven't had a problem since, but I also haven't really tested it for fear

of

having to reboot everytime. I've lost all confidence in the sleep function with my new iBook. The old iBook I had (300MHz blueberry) used to sleep

fine

in OSX, and it was a really useful thing to be able to just spontanously stop what I was doing and close the lid, knowing my work would be there again in the future. I don't have the same confidence in OSX with my new iBook.

Quick update: I just left my iBook alone for a while, and when I came back it had gone into this 'coma' state. Reboot time... So, what is going on? Does it have something to do with the power saving functions?

Message #4 - Posted 2001/06/25 - Kevin Craig

Previously, Craig Pugsley wrote:

(FTR, I was having the "gray screen" problem on my B&W 350. When I came back to my Mac after it had gone to sleep, I could tell if it was going to be "grayed out" or not, by the glowing blue of my Logitech MouseMan Wheel optical mouse. If it was still lit up, Finder crash; if not, true "sleep", with no crash.)

I believe the community is calling this bug the 'coma bug'. I too have been experiencing it on my new white iBook with OSX.

I'm not sure we're talking about the same bug, since you mentioned having to reboot or restart.

I've set up identical conditions where I used to encounter "gray out" (not the California kind), and I've yet to see it in 10.0.4.

Here's what would happen, before: I would come back to the computer after long enough for it to go into sleep mode. Upon awakening it, the screen is gray, except for one icon in the Dock (X-Assist, which is in my startup items). When I moved the cursor down to the Dock, it would appear, and when I launched an app, it would appear, and a small band of the desktop would appear around its windows. I could use a window to "sweep" the screen clean and wipe the gray off, and the desktop would appear.

I didn't have to reboot; the Finder had apparently crashed and restarted in my absence, because any previously running apps were closed.

For a while I suspected X-Assist, but everything seems to be working fine now. Hoooray!

Also, now I get monitor blanking, but not sleep, if I leave apps running that display some activity (like Eudora automatically checking email). Before, I would get the "sleep crash" (my term, I don't think it's the coma you describe), whether any apps were running, or not. Well, not always... on rare occasions, no crash if X-Assist was the only app running idle.

Anway... it's working now. Now if we could just get Java and some *speed*!

Kevin

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