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sleep in 10.7

Message #1 - Posted 2011/07/30 - William Hanna

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Message #2 - Posted 2011/07/30 - Suze

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Did you check the energy saver prefs?

Start every day with a smile and get it over with.

Message #3 - Posted 2011/07/30 - heron stone

Previously, Suze wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Did you check the energy saver prefs?

there's nothing there that relates to this issue

Message #4 - Posted 2011/07/30 - Izak van Langevelde

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

Grinnikend door het leven...

Message #5 - Posted 2011/07/31 - Paul Sture

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

I think it should be an option. When I was still using my iBook I could close it with an external monitor attached and it would automatically switch to using that monitor instead of the laptop display.

Paul Sture

Message #6 - Posted 2011/07/30 - heron stone

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

yes, i called apple support and he verified that the system changed with Lion. Closing the lid without an ext. monitor will put it to sleep, but with an ext. monitor attached, it doesn't.

i, too, consider this a bug... but they did it on purpose... duh!

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Message #7 - Posted 2011/07/30 - Richard Maine

Paul Sture wrote:

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

I think it should be an option.

This at least used to be a quite intentional feature of the MBP, one that plenty of people (including myself) used. Well, I suppose it was in the pre-Intel days that I was using it, so I suppose that would have been a powerbook, but same idea.

I only used the built-in screen when travelling with the laptop. When using it at my desk, I hooked it to a much larger monitor, an external keyboard, and a mouse. It was then my desktop machine. I wasn't allowed to have separate computers for desk and travel use, but I could have the laptop plus accessories to make it reasonable for desktop use.

I think you'd find quite a few people that would be annoyed if this wasn't at least an option. No, we didn't want to keep the laptop open just in order to keep it from going to sleep. Sure, a configurable option would be ok. But having a capability that is useful and regularly used doesn't count as a bug in my book. "Fixing" a "bug" like that would certainly cause complaints unless there was an option to undo the "fix".

(Sort of like the option in Mail.app in Lion to go back to the older interface. The new one looks like it was designed for a screen the size of a cell phone. Oh, wait; it looks that way because it was. Sure glad I could undo that. Though maybe it doesn't make much difference to me because in my experiments so far, I haven't found a single thing that I actually like better in Lion than Snow Leopard to make up for the several things I like less. I did pay my $30 for it, but I'm not at all sure I'm going to install it on anything other than the second partition on my MBP, which I'm using to experiment with. I'm more than half inclined to just wait 10.7 out and see what comes in 10.8.)

Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain

Message #8 - Posted 2011/07/30 - Jolly Roger

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.

JR

Message #9 - Posted 2011/07/30 - Izak van Langevelde

Previously, Jolly Roger wrote:

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

If the second display is switched off, it really doesn't make any sense to make it the main screen...

Grinnikend door het leven...

Message #10 - Posted 2011/07/30 - AES

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

If the second display is switched off, it really doesn't make any sense to make it the main screen...

Note that the latest large Apple LED Cinema Display does _not_ have any On/Off switch.

Message #11 - Posted 2011/07/30 - William Hanna

Previously, Jolly Roger wrote:

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

you don't have to close the MBP in order to make the second monitor the main monitor.

when i'm at home i always make my second big 27" monitor the main screen. but i want to use the MBP screen as a second screen.

this is easily done by opening the displays pref pane... selecting the "Arrangement" tab and dragging the white menu bar icon from the laptop screen to the external screen.

now the big external monitor is the "main screen" and you still have the MBP screen available also.

Message #12 - Posted 2011/07/31 - Jolly Roger

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously, Jolly Roger wrote:

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

you don't have to close the MBP in order to make the second monitor the main monitor.

I certainly do have to close the MBP lid to make the second monitor the *only* monitor, though, don't I?

when i'm at home i always make my second big 27" monitor the main screen. but i want to use the MBP screen as a second screen.

I don't want to use the MBP display at all when I have a second display connected.

Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.

JR

Message #13 - Posted 2011/07/31 - Jolly Roger

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, Jolly Roger wrote:

Previously, Izak van Langevelde wrote:

Previously, William Hanna wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

If the second display is switched off, it really doesn't make any sense to make it the main screen...

It's not switched off. That would be stupid.

Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.

JR

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