hi there
i experience strange system wake ups of my mac os x 10.3 system on a flatpanel iMac:
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. i thought the ethernet/broadband connection might cause it but i think it happens as well without ethernet plugged in... the other cause could be the wireless apple keyboard, however in the appropriate preferences i left the box " bluetooth is allowed to wake up" un-ticked.
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
thanks, leo
In article ccvu3a$1s9c$1@redacted.invalid, leo halloleo@redacted.invalid wrote:
hi there
i experience strange system wake ups of my mac os x 10.3 system on a flatpanel iMac:
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. i thought the ethernet/broadband connection might cause it but i think it happens as well without ethernet plugged in... the other cause could be the wireless apple keyboard, however in the appropriate preferences i left the box " bluetooth is allowed to wake up" un-ticked.
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
thanks, leo
CRON tasks maybe? Daily are at 3:15 am, weekly are Saturdays at 4:30 am, and monthly are on the 1st at 5:30 am.
In article 130720040710444253%reply_to@redacted.invalid, Chris Moore reply_to@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article ccvu3a$1s9c$1@redacted.invalid, leo halloleo@redacted.invalid wrote:
hi there
i experience strange system wake ups of my mac os x 10.3 system on a flatpanel iMac:
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. i thought the ethernet/broadband connection might cause it but i think it happens as well without ethernet plugged in... the other cause could be the wireless apple keyboard, however in the appropriate preferences i left the box " bluetooth is allowed to wake up" un-ticked.
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
thanks, leo
CRON tasks maybe? Daily are at 3:15 am, weekly are Saturdays at 4:30 am, and monthly are on the 1st at 5:30 am.
The cron task is dormant when the processor sleeps so none of its tasks will execute.
Entity leo spoke thus:
wireless apple keyboard I don't know what that is, but it could be the culprit. Wireless USB tranceivers have a habit of waking up the OS in general. I had a Macally wireless keyboard that woke up the OS randomly and just couldn't use it.
-- Gnarlie Tubal Litigation: Suing because of a misconception
In article ccvu3a$1s9c$1@redacted.invalid, "leo" halloleo@redacted.invalid wrote:
hi there
i experience strange system wake ups of my mac os x 10.3 system on a flatpanel iMac:
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. i thought the ethernet/broadband connection might cause it but i think it happens as well without ethernet plugged in... the other cause could be the wireless apple keyboard, however in the appropriate preferences i left the box " bluetooth is allowed to wake up" un-ticked.
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
thanks, leo
I have seen this several times in the last few months. The only wireless device I have is Airport.
In article ccvu3a$1s9c$1@redacted.invalid, "leo" halloleo@redacted.invalid wrote:
hi there
i experience strange system wake ups of my mac os x 10.3 system on a flatpanel iMac:
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. i thought the ethernet/broadband connection might cause it but i think it happens as well without ethernet plugged in... the other cause could be the wireless apple keyboard, however in the appropriate preferences i left the box " bluetooth is allowed to wake up" un-ticked.
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
My iMac (old-style fruit colored) running 10.3.4 wakes up when I turn on the lamp on the desk, even if I'm very careful not to jiggle anything on the desk. I view it as one of the mysteries of the universe.
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. It could be (at least it happenned to me) that you have checked the wake on incoming call in the Fax preference and it so does when your phone rings. I am a bit puzzled because it happens in the middle of the night so I presume you would hear the phone ring, unless you have a dedicated phone line to your Mac modem...
My iMac (old-style fruit colored) running 10.3.4 wakes up when I turn on the lamp on the desk, even if I'm very careful not to jiggle anything on the desk. I view it as one of the mysteries of the universe. So does mine which is an 15" flat panel and it DEFINITELY is a mistery of the universe. It did so with Jaguar and Panther.
On 13/07/2004 10:38 AM, Alice Faber wrote:
In article ccvu3a$1s9c$1@redacted.invalid, "leo" halloleo@redacted.invalid wrote:
hi there
i experience strange system wake ups of my mac os x 10.3 system on a flatpanel iMac:
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. i thought the ethernet/broadband connection might cause it but i think it happens as well without ethernet plugged in... the other cause could be the wireless apple keyboard, however in the appropriate preferences i left the box " bluetooth is allowed to wake up" un-ticked.
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
My iMac (old-style fruit colored) running 10.3.4 wakes up when I turn on the lamp on the desk, even if I'm very careful not to jiggle anything on the desk. I view it as one of the mysteries of the universe.
Does this model (or Macs in general) have a light-sensor on the case somewhere so that it can adjust the screen brightness and contrast based on ambient light?
On 2004-07-13 09:30:50 -0400, Gnarlodious gnarlodiousNULL@redacted.invalid said:
Entity leo spoke thus:
wireless apple keyboard I don't know what that is, but it could be the culprit. Wireless USB tranceivers have a habit of waking up the OS in general. I had a Macally wireless keyboard that woke up the OS randomly and just couldn't use it.
It happens to me with my G4, and I don't have any wireless peripherals attached.
It happens less now than it used to.
well, fromall thye post i can sum up that this seems to be a standing issue.
does anybody know some web resource about this? maybe even from apple? ;-)
thanks, leo
"leo" halloleo@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:ccvu3a$1s9c$1@redacted.invalid
hi there
i experience strange system wake ups of my mac os x 10.3 system on a flatpanel iMac:
at night i put the computer to sleep, but _sometimes the system spontaneously wakes up in the middle of the night. i thought the ethernet/broadband connection might cause it but i think it happens as well without ethernet plugged in... the other cause could be the wireless apple keyboard, however in the appropriate preferences i left the box " bluetooth is allowed to wake up" un-ticked.
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
thanks, leo
leo wrote: -snip-
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
I think it could be some of your USB-devices. My 12" PB allways wakes up from sleep, when I insert my USB-mouse - annoying, but I can live with that.
So, perhaps you have an USB-device that sends a signal that makes your computer wake up?
Best regards, Martin J¯rgensen
In article rrYIc.25451$vO1.140069@redacted.invalid, clvrmnky clvrmnky-uunet@redacted.invalid wrote:
My iMac (old-style fruit colored) running 10.3.4 wakes up when I turn on the lamp on the desk, even if I'm very careful not to jiggle anything on the desk. I view it as one of the mysteries of the universe.
Does this model (or Macs in general) have a light-sensor on the case somewhere so that it can adjust the screen brightness and contrast based on ambient light?
Nope. I think this is probably a case of electrical transients fooling the machine into thinking there's USB activity.
Either that or the poster has an optical mouse.
In article jaOdnb1paq0o9WjdRVn-vw@redacted.invalid, russotto@redacted.invalid (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
In article rrYIc.25451$vO1.140069@redacted.invalid, clvrmnky clvrmnky-uunet@redacted.invalid wrote:
My iMac (old-style fruit colored) running 10.3.4 wakes up when I turn on the lamp on the desk, even if I'm very careful not to jiggle anything on the desk. I view it as one of the mysteries of the universe.
Does this model (or Macs in general) have a light-sensor on the case somewhere so that it can adjust the screen brightness and contrast based on ambient light?
Nope. I think this is probably a case of electrical transients fooling the machine into thinking there's USB activity.
Either that or the poster has an optical mouse.
I do, and that was my first hypothesis, but the light isn't anywhere near the mouse, and turning on the lamp across the room (that's on a different circuit) doesn't wake the computer.
Alice Faber wrote:
Either that or the poster has an optical mouse.
I do, and that was my first hypothesis, but the light isn't anywhere near the mouse, and turning on the lamp across the room (that's on a different circuit) doesn't wake the computer.
It might be so sensitive that a door slamming or a heavy step on an unstable floor could do it. E.g. if it only happens when you are there to observe (and cause) it.
In article 40F56F4B.FD587544@redacted.invalid, George Williams nyar1ath0tep@redacted.invalid wrote:
Alice Faber wrote:
Either that or the poster has an optical mouse.
I do, and that was my first hypothesis, but the light isn't anywhere near the mouse, and turning on the lamp across the room (that's on a different circuit) doesn't wake the computer.
It might be so sensitive that a door slamming or a heavy step on an unstable floor could do it. E.g. if it only happens when you are there to observe (and cause) it.
I can walk into the room and grab something from the desk (like my cell phone), but the computer only wakes up if I turn on the desk lamp, and not always then.
Alice Faber wrote:
I can walk into the room and grab something from the desk (like my cell phone), but the computer only wakes up if I turn on the desk lamp, and not always then.
That's it, then. The lamp emits a spike of infra-red of the wavelength which the mouse's phototransistor detects, or perhaps the lamp emits some kind of RF interference (if fluorescent) that is picked up by the mouse cable.
I have a flat panel like the OP, but I ended up removing the capacitive switch. Turns out it was too sensitive for my situation, getting set off by my ham radios or cellphone or even a stray bug attracted to the light.
The Cube however did not suffer the same sensitivity, encased in steel as it is. The capacitive switch was exactly the same piece on both machines but the LCD mount put it right at the front with no shielding.
I cave the spare switches to a guy who is building a robot, he wanted some for the robot's eyes.
-- Gnarlie ï http://Gnarlodious.com/Entities/Computer/Cube/Cube.html
George Williams wrote:
Alice Faber wrote:
Either that or the poster has an optical mouse.
I do, and that was my first hypothesis, but the light isn't anywhere near the mouse, and turning on the lamp across the room (that's on a different circuit) doesn't wake the computer.
It might be so sensitive that a door slamming or a heavy step on an unstable floor could do it. E.g. if it only happens when you are there to observe (and cause) it.
Somewhat off-topic and tongue-in-cheek:
I have a neighbor some 1/4 mile away who keeps chickens. Over the course of the last 3 weeks I have been awakened at 5 AM by the rooster who has decided that my back yard is his favorite place to be noisy. If I get awakened by that damned bird, why shouldn't my computer get awakened by the same damned bird???!!!??? :)
(Note that the damned bird is this >||< close to becoming dinner at this point. Fricasee? Cacciatore? Just plain old down-home breaded & fried? Any suggestions welcome!)
NPL
Nick Landsberg wrote:
(Note that the damned bird is this >||< close to becoming dinner at this point. Fricasee? Cacciatore? Just plain old down-home breaded & fried? Any suggestions welcome!)
They aren't very tasty, but one can set up one of those humane traps (raccoon-size), baited with popcorn, put it on the fence or near the rooster's perch. It just might get caught.
Nick Landsberg wrote:
George Williams wrote:
Alice Faber wrote:
Either that or the poster has an optical mouse.
I do, and that was my first hypothesis, but the light isn't anywhere near the mouse, and turning on the lamp across the room (that's on a different circuit) doesn't wake the computer.
It might be so sensitive that a door slamming or a heavy step on an unstable floor could do it. E.g. if it only happens when you are there to observe (and cause) it.
Somewhat off-topic and tongue-in-cheek:
I have a neighbor some 1/4 mile away who keeps chickens. Over the course of the last 3 weeks I have been awakened at 5 AM by the rooster who has decided that my back yard is his favorite place to be noisy. If I get awakened by that damned bird, why shouldn't my computer get awakened by the same damned bird???!!!??? :)
(Note that the damned bird is this >||< close to becoming dinner at this point. Fricasee? Cacciatore? Just plain old down-home breaded & fried? Any suggestions welcome!)
LOL! I am reliably informed that a catapult can be used with effect in these situations. ;-)
In article WVhJc.94850$OB3.14467@redacted.invalid, Nick Landsberg SPAMhukolautTRAP@redacted.invalid wrote:
I have a neighbor some 1/4 mile away who keeps chickens. Over the course of the last 3 weeks I have been awakened at 5 AM by the rooster who has decided that my back yard is his favorite place to be noisy. If I get awakened by that damned bird, why shouldn't my computer get awakened by the same damned bird???!!!??? :)
(Note that the damned bird is this >||< close to becoming dinner at this point. Fricasee? Cacciatore? Just plain old down-home breaded & fried? Any suggestions welcome!)
Those are all young-chicken recipes. The old cock should probably be stewed.
"Gnarlodious" gnarlodiousNULL@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:BD1B0440.5199A%gnarlodiousNULL@redacted.invalid
I have a flat panel like the OP, but I ended up removing the capacitive switch. Turns out it was too sensitive for my situation, getting set off by my ham radios or cellphone or even a stray bug attracted to the light.
what is the capacitive switch at the iMac? on mine is only one push button to switch the machine on and of...
cheers, leo
"Martin J¯rgensen" unoder.spam@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:40f5174d$0$178$edfadb0f@redacted.invalid
leo wrote: -snip-
do other people have similar experiences? and what can i do to avoid this annoyance?
I think it could be some of your USB-devices. My 12" PB allways wakes up from sleep, when I insert my USB-mouse - annoying, but I can live with that.
So, perhaps you have an USB-device that sends a signal that makes your computer wake up?
well, it does not happen all the time only sometimes. (maybe one night per week?)
cheers, leo
<< It might be so sensitive that a door slamming or a heavy step on an unstable floor could do it. E.g. if it only happens when you are there to observe (and cause) it. >>
Generally what 'wakes' my mac from screensaver land,can be the slightest tremor of someone walking across the room or similar, nudging the optical mouse the slightest bit.