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Tiger sleep

Message #1 - Posted 2005/07/11 - Tim Hodgson

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

TimH
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Message #2 - Posted 2005/07/11 - Chris Ridd

On 11/7/05 2:20, in article 1gzjh0w.1d9g0e92gtyrkN%thnews@poboxmolar.com.invalid, Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

Nope. Tiger sleeps instantaneously here.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #3 - Posted 2005/07/11 - Joe Flannigan

Previously, Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

Both my G4 powerbook and my mac-mini both sleep almost instantly with Tiger.

The powerbook will occasionally not be able to use its wireless connection. It shows its connected but it won't send or receive on the connection. Putting it back to sleep and waking it up again does the trick.

Message #4 - Posted 2005/07/11 - ray

Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

I have seen this (taking some time to sleep) but it was soon after the upgrade to Tiger. Not seen it recently. I think it is something to do with Spotlight indexing.
I have had no problems with wireless networking, which connects immediately on wake up.

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Message #5 - Posted 2005/07/11 - Tim Hodgson

ray wrote:

Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

I have seen this (taking some time to sleep) but it was soon after the upgrade to Tiger. Not seen it recently. I think it is something to do with Spotlight indexing.
I have had no problems with wireless networking, which connects immediately on wake up.

Thanks ray (and Chris and Joe). Inevitably, sleep has behaved perfectly since I posted :) Indexing was _supposed_ to have finished yesterday, before this problem arose, so I don't htink it was Spotlight-related. Anyway, if it doesn't come back I can't be bothered to figure out what caused it...

As for the wireless, I'm luckily near enough to the router to run an ethernet cable for the time being, but if 10.4.2 doesn't show up with a fix PDQ it'll be back to troubleshooting i suppose.

I must say that my experience of TIger so far is not great. Some really nice features (and I don't mean Dashboard), but it somehow gives me that Windowsy feeling that something catastrophic could happen any moment... --
TimH
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Message #6 - Posted 2005/07/11 - D.M. Procida

Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

I get it sometimes. I have a feeling that it is related to open applications using larger quantities of virtual memory. For example, it's doing it at the moment, and I have Photoshop Elements open with about 15 documents.

Daniele

Message #7 - Posted 2005/07/11 - Gary

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:20:03 +0100, Tim Hodgson wrote (in a previous article):

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

AArgh... Must.. Resist... Noo!

Thats neat, that's neat, that's neat, that's neat, I really love that tiger sleep. That tiger sleep.. Wooooo!

I'm going now.

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Message #8 - Posted 2005/07/11 - Roger Merriman

Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

my wireless was nobbled in 10.4.0 but was fixed in 10.4.1 in what way is yours nobbled?

my powerbook and elderly imac sleep nr instantly.

roger

Message #9 - Posted 2005/07/12 - Tim Hodgson

Roger Merriman wrote:

Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

my wireless was nobbled in 10.4.0 but was fixed in 10.4.1 in what way is yours nobbled?

It's normally OK after a restart but the network disappears somewhere between a minute and 20 minutes later. As i said, I haven't investigated much beyond deleting all settings and starting again, because I'm within ethernet cable-reach of the router, and I've got work to do!

my powerbook and elderly imac sleep nr instantly.

Yes, re. my other post 'IOATAController error', i suspect it's connected to that. There's also a 'kernel_task' process which has been periodically hogging enormous amounts of CPU.

TimH
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Message #10 - Posted 2005/07/12 - Martin S Taylor

Tim Hodgson wrote

it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES
to sleep. Anyone seen this?

Sometimes problems with USB devices can keep the system (and the operator) from getting to sleep quickly. Try disconnecting all USB kit it if happens again.

(I had very strange interaction between Matias keyboard and PhoneValet which interfered with sleep.)

MST

Message #11 - Posted 2005/07/12 - Martin S Taylor

Tim Hodgson wrote

Some really
nice features (and I don't mean Dashboard)

So what do you mean? Spotlight and what else?

MST

Message #12 - Posted 2005/07/12 - Tim Hodgson

Martin S Taylor wrote:

Tim Hodgson wrote

Some really
nice features (and I don't mean Dashboard)

So what do you mean? Spotlight and what else?

More the background stuff: improvements to the text APIs (built-in tables in NoteBook and other text apps now) and pdf support (lots of fancy new LaTeXing features in TeXShop, for instance).

TimH
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Message #13 - Posted 2005/07/12 - Tim Hodgson

Martin S Taylor wrote:

Tim Hodgson wrote

it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES
to sleep. Anyone seen this?

Sometimes problems with USB devices can keep the system (and the operator) from getting to sleep quickly. Try disconnecting all USB kit it if happens again.

there's only a mouse, and I think it's happened even with that disconnected. Thanks for the suggestion though.

TimH
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Message #14 - Posted 2005/07/13 - Roger Merriman

Tim Hodgson wrote:

Roger Merriman wrote:

Tim Hodgson wrote:

I know I'm late on the bandwagon for ranting about Tiger bugs, but I've just installed (and upgraded to 10.4.1), and apart from the widespread bug where wireless networking is completely fscked (and yes, I've done all the pref and plist trashing), it's also now taking about 3 MINUTES to sleep. Anyone seen this?

my wireless was nobbled in 10.4.0 but was fixed in 10.4.1 in what way is yours nobbled?

It's normally OK after a restart but the network disappears somewhere between a minute and 20 minutes later. As i said, I haven't investigated much beyond deleting all settings and starting again, because I'm within ethernet cable-reach of the router, and I've got work to do!

fair enought.

my powerbook and elderly imac sleep nr instantly.

Yes, re. my other post 'IOATAController error', i suspect it's connected to that. There's also a 'kernel_task' process which has been periodically hogging enormous amounts of CPU.

well yes that would stop it sleeping...

roger

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