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Wake-From-Sleep Freezes

Message #1 - Posted 2004/03/31 - Madwen

For the first time since moving to OS X, I have been having wake-from-sleep freezes. This has never happened when I manually sleep the computer--- only when energy saver does it. I really must say that, over the years, Energy Saver has been a huge PITA.

Comes now this morning's MacFixit to say that others are also experiencing post-10.3.3 wake-from-sleep crashes, that they think they are due to 10.3.3 & USB hubs, and that the combo updater has solved the problem for many. So I am about to embark on that but I have some questions first.

Do I need to disconnect the Belkin hub or any other peripherals or should I just let the update read them as one would normally do? Is there anything special I need to do, other than Permissions, before running this update, especially since I have already installed 10.3.3 via Software update? TIA.

Madeleine

Message #2 - Posted 2004/04/12 - alias

Did you (or anyone else out there) solve this 10.3.3 'wake-from-sleep' problem? It's becoming a problem here for me, too. I'm not sure, but for me I think it only began with the addition of the latest security update. I don't use any USB hub... but I do have a firewire drive attached...

I've tinkered with differing Energy Saver settings, including NEVER SLEEP and never put display to sleep, but each morning, after leaving the rig running all night (mirrordoor DP 1.25ghz G4 w/1gig ram) it's frozen. Grrrrrr....

Madwen wrote:

For the first time since moving to OS X, I have been having wake-from-sleep freezes. This has never happened when I manually sleep the computer--- only when energy saver does it. I really must say that, over the years, Energy Saver has been a huge PITA.

Comes now this morning's MacFixit to say that others are also experiencing post-10.3.3 wake-from-sleep crashes, that they think they are due to 10.3.3 & USB hubs, and that the combo updater has solved the problem for many. So I am about to embark on that but I have some questions first.

Do I need to disconnect the Belkin hub or any other peripherals or should I just let the update read them as one would normally do? Is there anything special I need to do, other than Permissions, before running this update, especially since I have already installed 10.3.3 via Software update? TIA.

Madeleine

Message #3 - Posted 2004/04/12 - Ron Sussman

I had the wake-from-sleep freezes. The thing was, I would hit the spacebar to wake the system, which meant that the keyboard worked just before waking. The monitor would then display the desktop & whatever I had open on the screen before it went to sleep - including the mouse pointer. But then the mouse & keyboard simply wouldn't work. It was as if the screen was frozen - neither mouse nor keyboard had any effect on the screen. I would have to hard boot to get the computer working.

However, I found that if I unplug the usb keyboard plug from the back of my i-mac for a few seconds (10?) & plug it back in, everything works fine again. I'm told that unpluging & pluging this resets the usb which is the problem with most of these freezes.

But what do I know? I don't even get cable.

Anybody know of fix so I don't have to unplug & plug?

Thanks

alias <alias@alias.net.invalid> wrote in message news:<120420040757547972%alias@alias.net.invalid>...

Did you (or anyone else out there) solve this 10.3.3 'wake-from-sleep' problem? It's becoming a problem here for me, too. I'm not sure, but for me I think it only began with the addition of the latest security update. I don't use any USB hub... but I do have a firewire drive attached...

I've tinkered with differing Energy Saver settings, including NEVER SLEEP and never put display to sleep, but each morning, after leaving the rig running all night (mirrordoor DP 1.25ghz G4 w/1gig ram) it's frozen. Grrrrrr....

Madwen wrote:

For the first time since moving to OS X, I have been having wake-from-sleep freezes. This has never happened when I manually sleep the computer--- only when energy saver does it. I really must say that, over the years, Energy Saver has been a huge PITA.

Comes now this morning's MacFixit to say that others are also experiencing post-10.3.3 wake-from-sleep crashes, that they think they are due to 10.3.3 & USB hubs, and that the combo updater has solved the problem for many. So I am about to embark on that but I have some questions first.

Do I need to disconnect the Belkin hub or any other peripherals or should I just let the update read them as one would normally do? Is there anything special I need to do, other than Permissions, before running this update, especially since I have already installed 10.3.3 via Software update? TIA.

Madeleine

Message #4 - Posted 2004/04/13 - Madwen

Previously, alias wrote:

Madwen wrote:

For the first time since moving to OS X, I have been having wake-from-sleep freezes. <brevity snip>

Did you (or anyone else out there) solve this 10.3.3 'wake-from-sleep' problem? It's becoming a problem here for me, too. I'm not sure, but for me I think it only began with the addition of the latest security update. I don't use any USB hub... but I do have a firewire drive attached...

I've tinkered with differing Energy Saver settings, including NEVER SLEEP and never put display to sleep, but each morning, after leaving the rig running all night (mirrordoor DP 1.25ghz G4 w/1gig ram) it's frozen. Grrrrrr....

It still happens on my Quicksilver but only if I forget to sleep the computer manually and let energy saver do it. I have not installed the last security update (afraid of installing more problems!). I also have a couple external FW drives--- Mercury Elites btw.

Yesterday I left the computer running (not allowing it to sleep) while I did some real paperwork. However, I left the command running to sleep the HDs whenever possible. I was disconnected from the internet and left no program running that would want to open a connection or do anything independent of my input. And I was aghast at how many times my internal hard drive was relentlessly parking and starting up again for no darn reason. The external HDs parked and stayed parked, however. Little Snitch has not reported any renegade attempts to connect either. Mail was not running. Totally weird and I am sick of it. 10.3.2 ran like a top for me but this incarnation is really a troublemaker.

.

Message #5 - Posted 2004/04/13 - Madwen

Previously, Ron Sussman wrote:

I had the wake-from-sleep freezes. The thing was, I would hit the spacebar to wake the system, which meant that the keyboard worked just before waking. The monitor would then display the desktop & whatever I had open on the screen before it went to sleep - including the mouse pointer. But then the mouse & keyboard simply wouldn't work. It was as if the screen was frozen - neither mouse nor keyboard had any effect on the screen. I would have to hard boot to get the computer working.

However, I found that if I unplug the usb keyboard plug from the back of my i-mac for a few seconds (10?) & plug it back in, everything works fine again. I'm told that unpluging & pluging this resets the usb which is the problem with most of these freezes.

But what do I know? I don't even get cable.

Anybody know of fix so I don't have to unplug & plug?

I will try that next time mine freezes. I get the same thing you do at times. Sometimes if I wait a bit, it finally unfreezes. If I hit the restart button when it freezes, I get the damn blinking question mark and it will not start up from the main drive at all--- only from one of my FW externals. So I use the power button instead to power it off, flush out the RAM chips and then it starts again with no problem at all. What a PITA! OS X was supposed to prevent system crashes not cause them.
. :: growls ::

Madeleine

Message #6 - Posted 2004/04/14 - G.T.

Previously, alias wrote:

Madwen wrote:

For the first time since moving to OS X, I have been having wake-from-sleep freezes. <brevity snip>

Did you (or anyone else out there) solve this 10.3.3 'wake-from-sleep' problem? It's becoming a problem here for me, too. I'm not sure, but for me I think it only began with the addition of the latest security update. I don't use any USB hub... but I do have a firewire drive attached...

I'm sorry to hear that wake-from-sleep problems are still happening. On my 2x800Mhz Quicksilver I haven't been able to wake it from sleep since 10.2.3, it just sits on the spinning beachball and then locks up completely.

Greg

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