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wakening wifi problem

Message #1 - Posted 2007/05/15 - DBSnappa

Just wondering if anybody was suffering similar 'problems' to me. Since the last security wifi update, my MBP regularly drops the wifi connection on waking up meaning I have to click the drop down menu and manually reselect the Airport. It's not a big problem - I'm just curious if anybody else is experiencing similar and if they've sorted it.

I've already done a reset power down on my airport, modem and MBP but it still happens about 4 out of 5 wakeups.

Message #2 - Posted 2007/05/15 - Sara Kirk

Previously, DBSnappa wrote:

Just wondering if anybody was suffering similar 'problems' to me. Since the last security wifi update, my MBP regularly drops the wifi connection on waking up meaning I have to click the drop down menu and manually reselect the Airport. It's not a big problem - I'm just curious if anybody else is experiencing similar and if they've sorted it.

I've already done a reset power down on my airport, modem and MBP but it still happens about 4 out of 5 wakeups.

Not after this update, a similar happened to me a while ago. Somehow or another the stored pw had got completely buggered. It was a very simple fix - delete and re-save account details in System Prefs.

Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

Message #3 - Posted 2007/05/15 - SimonL

Hey Sara,

Just a quick question.. when you say Accounts in System Prefs... I'm sure you mean Keychain Access right... otherwise DBSnappa would lose all of his data?! Correct?

If I'm thinking about this the right way, DBSnappa should Spotlight "Keychain Access". Open the App and simply select the field containing his Wifi password details, and delete it. That's how I solved this on mine... After the deletion he should simply click the wifi icon in the menu bar and select his wifi hotspot name, and retype his password, clicking the Save in my Keychain checkbox if it appears.

That should be easier than an account delete and create!

SimonL

On 15 May, 17:34, Sara Kirk wrote:

Previously,

DBSnappa wrote:

Just wondering if anybody was suffering similar 'problems' to me. Since the last security wifi update, my MBP regularly drops the wifi connection on waking up meaning I have to click the drop down menu and manually reselect the Airport. It's not a big problem - I'm just curious if anybody else is experiencing similar and if they've sorted it.

I've already done a reset power down on my airport, modem and MBP but it still happens about 4 out of 5 wakeups.

Not after this update, a similar happened to me a while ago. Somehow or another the stored pw had got completely buggered. It was a very simple fix - delete and re-save account details in System Prefs.

--
Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

Message #4 - Posted 2007/05/16 - DBSnappa

SimonL wrote:

Hey Sara,

Just a quick question.. when you say Accounts in System Prefs... I'm sure you mean Keychain Access right... otherwise DBSnappa would lose all of his data?! Correct?

If I'm thinking about this the right way, DBSnappa should Spotlight "Keychain Access". Open the App and simply select the field containing his Wifi password details, and delete it. That's how I solved this on mine... After the deletion he should simply click the wifi icon in the menu bar and select his wifi hotspot name, and retype his password, clicking the Save in my Keychain checkbox if it appears.

That should be easier than an account delete and create!

SimonL

On 15 May, 17:34, Sara Kirk wrote:

Previously,

DBSnappa wrote:

Just wondering if anybody was suffering similar 'problems' to me. Since the last security wifi update, my MBP regularly drops the wifi connection on waking up meaning I have to click the drop down menu and manually reselect the Airport. It's not a big problem - I'm just curious if anybody else is experiencing similar and if they've sorted it. I've already done a reset power down on my airport, modem and MBP but it still happens about 4 out of 5 wakeups.

Not after this update, a similar happened to me a while ago. Somehow or another the stored pw had got completely buggered. It was a very simple fix - delete and re-save account details in System Prefs.

--
Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

Thanks for that guys :)

Message #5 - Posted 2007/05/16 - Sara Kirk

Previously, SimonL wrote:

On 15 May, 17:34, Sara Kirk wrote:

Previously,

DBSnappa wrote:

Just wondering if anybody was suffering similar 'problems' to me. Since the last security wifi update, my MBP regularly drops the wifi connection on waking up meaning I have to click the drop down menu and manually reselect the Airport. It's not a big problem - I'm just curious if anybody else is experiencing similar and if they've sorted it.

I've already done a reset power down on my airport, modem and MBP but it still happens about 4 out of 5 wakeups.

Not after this update, a similar happened to me a while ago. Somehow or another the stored pw had got completely buggered. It was a very simple fix - delete and re-save account details in System Prefs.

Hey Sara,

Just a quick question.. when you say Accounts in System Prefs... I'm sure you mean Keychain Access right... otherwise DBSnappa would lose all of his data?! Correct?

If I'm thinking about this the right way, DBSnappa should Spotlight "Keychain Access". Open the App and simply select the field containing his Wifi password details, and delete it. That's how I solved this on mine... After the deletion he should simply click the wifi icon in the menu bar and select his wifi hotspot name, and retype his password, clicking the Save in my Keychain checkbox if it appears.

I didn't mean the whole user account! I meant merely the wifi info in Network. Sorry if my mis-use of terms caused confusion. Your suggestion of deleting the keychain entry is probably easier.

Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

Message #6 - Posted 2007/05/16 - Chris Ridd

On 2007-05-16 08:15:51 +0100, Sara Kirk said:

I didn't mean the whole user account! I meant merely the wifi info in Network. Sorry if my mis-use of terms caused confusion. Your suggestion of deleting the keychain entry is probably easier.

Internet Access.app provides another good way of getting at each WiFi configuration, and I think it also has a couple of extra WiFi knobs you can tweak.

Cheers,

Chris

Message #7 - Posted 2007/05/16 - DBSnappa

Sara Kirk wrote:

Previously, SimonL wrote:

On 15 May, 17:34, Sara Kirk wrote:

Previously,

DBSnappa wrote:

Just wondering if anybody was suffering similar 'problems' to me. Since the last security wifi update, my MBP regularly drops the wifi connection on waking up meaning I have to click the drop down menu and manually reselect the Airport. It's not a big problem - I'm just curious if anybody else is experiencing similar and if they've sorted it. I've already done a reset power down on my airport, modem and MBP but it still happens about 4 out of 5 wakeups.

Not after this update, a similar happened to me a while ago. Somehow or another the stored pw had got completely buggered. It was a very simple fix - delete and re-save account details in System Prefs.

Hey Sara,

Just a quick question.. when you say Accounts in System Prefs... I'm sure you mean Keychain Access right... otherwise DBSnappa would lose all of his data?! Correct?

If I'm thinking about this the right way, DBSnappa should Spotlight "Keychain Access". Open the App and simply select the field containing his Wifi password details, and delete it. That's how I solved this on mine... After the deletion he should simply click the wifi icon in the menu bar and select his wifi hotspot name, and retype his password, clicking the Save in my Keychain checkbox if it appears.

I didn't mean the whole user account! I meant merely the wifi info in Network. Sorry if my mis-use of terms caused confusion. Your suggestion of deleting the keychain entry is probably easier.

I got the gist of what you were saying - I'm not a complete dufus, honest ;)

Message #8 - Posted 2007/05/16 - Sara Kirk

Previously, DBSnappa wrote:

I got the gist of what you were saying - I'm not a complete dufus, honest ;)

Phew!

Sara

The teeth are free at last! Fly free, young teethies!

Message #9 - Posted 2007/05/16 - Ian_

DBSnappa wrote on 15/5/2007 3:56 pm:

Just wondering if anybody was suffering similar 'problems' to me. Since the last security wifi update, my MBP regularly drops the wifi connection on waking up meaning I have to click the drop down menu and manually reselect the Airport.

Users on Panther, yes.
Amended Security Update 2007-004 v1.1 now available.

This update corrects an issue where the AirPort connection may be lost after waking from sleep. This issue only affects
Mac OS X v10.3.9 (client) with Security Update 2007-004.

Mac OS X v10.4.9 clients don't need this.

I deleted some recent prefs and caches from the main Library, these get re-made next usage, seems OK so far...
My prob was mDNSResponder Waking.

HTH, &B-) Ian
(false address), please reply to newsgroup!

Message #10 - Posted 2007/05/16 - Peter Ceresole

Ian_ wrote:

Users on Panther, yes.
Amended Security Update 2007-004 v1.1 now available.

This update corrects an issue where the AirPort connection may be lost after waking from sleep. This issue only affects
Mac OS X v10.3.9 (client) with Security Update 2007-004.

That's odd- I'm using 10.3.9 on my iG5, and connecting via an Airport Express card to a Belkin wireless router. Slept often. It seems to work flawlessly, and reconnects every time on waking. This with WPA- with WEP I could never get it to connect at all...

I had all updates up to last week... Can't check in detail, because just this minute it's halfway across London from here,

Peter

Message #11 - Posted 2007/05/16 - Jaimie Vandenbergh

On Wed, 16 May 2007 06:04:46 GMT, DBSnappa wrote:

SimonL wrote:

If I'm thinking about this the right way, DBSnappa should Spotlight "Keychain Access". Open the App and simply select the field containing his Wifi password details, and delete it. That's how I solved this on mine... After the deletion he should simply click the wifi icon in the menu bar and select his wifi hotspot name, and retype his password, clicking the Save in my Keychain checkbox if it appears.

Thanks for that guys :)

This happened to me a few weeks ago, when I changed to a new 802.11n AP. Took me ages to work out how to sort it, doing what Simon describes.

Cheers - Jaimie

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Message #12 - Posted 2007/05/17 - DBSnappa

Peter Ceresole wrote:

Ian_ wrote:

Users on Panther, yes.
Amended Security Update 2007-004 v1.1 now available.

This update corrects an issue where the AirPort connection may be lost after waking from sleep. This issue only affects
Mac OS X v10.3.9 (client) with Security Update 2007-004.

That's odd- I'm using 10.3.9 on my iG5, and connecting via an Airport Express card to a Belkin wireless router. Slept often. It seems to work flawlessly, and reconnects every time on waking. This with WPA- with WEP I could never get it to connect at all...

I had all updates up to last week... Can't check in detail, because just this minute it's halfway across London from here,

Talking of iG5s - is there any bloody way of improving the capacity of the airport card picking up the base station - mine is sitting two foot closer to the airport than this MBP I'm writing this on and it can't pick anything up at all - the base mushroom is attached to the wall two rooms away...

Just curious if there is another solution before I go to the trouble of buying 10m of cat 5 and moving it.

Message #13 - Posted 2007/05/17 - Peter Ceresole

DBSnappa wrote:

Talking of iG5s - is there any bloody way of improving the capacity of the airport card picking up the base station - mine is sitting two foot closer to the airport than this MBP I'm writing this on and it can't pick anything up at all

I don't know. All I can say is that my iG5 is sitting one floor above the Belkin base station (well, Belkin Wifi router) and I'm getting a full set of bars.

I can also connect with other transmitters outside this house, but I don't know where they are...

Peter

Message #14 - Posted 2007/05/17 - DBSnappa

Peter Ceresole wrote:

DBSnappa wrote:

Talking of iG5s - is there any bloody way of improving the capacity of the airport card picking up the base station - mine is sitting two foot closer to the airport than this MBP I'm writing this on and it can't pick anything up at all

I don't know. All I can say is that my iG5 is sitting one floor above the Belkin base station (well, Belkin Wifi router) and I'm getting a full set of bars.

I can also connect with other transmitters outside this house, but I don't know where they are...

I know this is going to sound mad - but I wonder if it's anythign to do with the Chimney breasts. The Airport mushroom is attached to one and iG5 is next to one on my work bench - I know from years of DIY that chimney breasts - don't ask me why - contain quite high levels of static electricity that current detectors can pick up.

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