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Weird wake from sleep

Message #1 - Posted 2012/07/03 - Michael Vilain

I never use sleep mode on my MacPro, so I'm unfamiliar with it. On my older machines, with various upgrades to hardware, Sleep stopped working so I just let the machine run with a screen saver.

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro. When I close the lid and put it to sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark. If I press a key or click the trackpad, about 10 seconds later, the screen lights up for about 4 seconds and prompts for a password. It's taking me the better part of 15 minutes messing with this to try and login. One time I just gave up and held the power button until the machine shut down and rebooted.

It takes a good 4-5 minutes to boot, so a working Sleep mode would be useful for this system. I've looked at the Energy Saving settings and don't know what I should set to to.

Originally I thought it was a program that was doing this, but it does it regardless.

How can I fix this or does it need to be taken into the Genius Bar to be fixed?

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Message #2 - Posted 2012/07/03 - Jolly Roger

Previously, Michael Vilain wrote:

I never use sleep mode on my MacPro, so I'm unfamiliar with it. On my older machines, with various upgrades to hardware, Sleep stopped working so I just let the machine run with a screen saver.

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro.

Which model and year, specifically?

When I close the lid and put it to
sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark. If I press a key or click the trackpad, about 10 seconds later, the screen lights up for about 4 seconds and prompts for a password.

Did you install the operating system on this computer, or did someone else? If the latter, I'd highly recommend you erase the hard drive and install a new OS on it.

It's taking me the
better part of 15 minutes messing with this to try and login. One time I just gave up and held the power button until the machine shut down and rebooted.

That's definitely not normal behavior. Something's wrong.

It takes a good 4-5 minutes to boot

And that's very abnormal as well. Have you run the Disk Utility Verify function on the startup drive?

, so a working Sleep mode would be
useful for this system. I've looked at the Energy Saving settings and don't know what I should set to to.

What is it set to now?

Originally I thought it was a program that was doing this, but it does it regardless.

How can I fix this or does it need to be taken into the Genius Bar to be fixed?

I'd wipe it and install the OS on it myself, if you haven't already.

If you already have, and this is the way the machine has always worked, even with a freshly erased hard drive and new OS install, then I would start suspecting a hardware issue.

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Message #3 - Posted 2012/07/03 - Daniel Cohen

Michael Vilain wrote:

I never use sleep mode on my MacPro, so I'm unfamiliar with it. On my older machines, with various upgrades to hardware, Sleep stopped working so I just let the machine run with a screen saver.

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro. When I close the lid and put it to sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark. If I press a key or click the trackpad, about 10 seconds later, the screen lights up for about 4 seconds and prompts for a password. It's taking me the better part of 15 minutes messing with this to try and login. One time I just gave up and held the power button until the machine shut down and rebooted.

Check the Security system preference. It is probably set to require a password on waking from sleep or even from a screensaver.

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Message #4 - Posted 2012/07/03 - Jolly Roger

Previously, Daniel Cohen wrote:

Michael Vilain wrote:

I never use sleep mode on my MacPro, so I'm unfamiliar with it. On my older machines, with various upgrades to hardware, Sleep stopped working so I just let the machine run with a screen saver.

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro. When I close the lid and put it to sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark. If I press a key or click the trackpad, about 10 seconds later, the screen lights up for about 4 seconds and prompts for a password. It's taking me the better part of 15 minutes messing with this to try and login. One time I just gave up and held the power button until the machine shut down and rebooted.

Check the Security system preference. It is probably set to require a password on waking from sleep or even from a screensaver.

That wouldn't be the cause of the issues described above.

Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.

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Message #5 - Posted 2012/07/04 - dorayme

Previously, Michael Vilain wrote:

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro. When I close the lid and put it to sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark.

If you don't want this, see if or ensure that the "Require password" box under Security in the Sys Prefs is unticked.

If I press
a key or click the trackpad, about 10 seconds later, the screen lights up for about 4 seconds and prompts for a password. It's taking me the better part of 15 minutes messing with this to try and login. One time I just gave up and held the power button until the machine shut down and rebooted.

It takes a good 4-5 minutes to boot, so a working Sleep mode would be useful for this system. I've looked at the Energy Saving settings and don't know what I should set to to.

Go to Energy Saver and try 15 min for Computer sleep and 5 mins for display sleep (or whatever you like but less than the Computer sleep). Be careful, the scale is unintuitive on the slider, look at the text that pops up to the right when you slide.

Now, say you are rushing off and want to make sure it sleeps: deliberately put the computer to sleep by (say) Command Option Eject or close the lid.

If you log out, commanding it to sleep with a mouse on the sleep option on the login screen will sleep it but can result in it waking suddenly after a few seconds without you doing anything and even if you have set it not to wake on network activity in Sys Prefs. It is perhaps some bug. What I found to be the most reliable way - when this happens is follow up by closing the lid. It then stays asleep.

My experience is with a desktop monitor connected.

dorayme

Message #6 - Posted 2012/07/03 - Michael Vilain

Previously, Jolly Roger wrote:

Previously, Michael Vilain wrote:

I never use sleep mode on my MacPro, so I'm unfamiliar with it. On my older machines, with various upgrades to hardware, Sleep stopped working so I just let the machine run with a screen saver.

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro.

Which model and year, specifically?

When I close the lid and put it to
sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark. If I press a key or click the trackpad, about 10 seconds later, the screen lights up for about 4 seconds and prompts for a password.

Did you install the operating system on this computer, or did someone else? If the latter, I'd highly recommend you erase the hard drive and install a new OS on it.

It's taking me the
better part of 15 minutes messing with this to try and login. One time I just gave up and held the power button until the machine shut down and rebooted.

That's definitely not normal behavior. Something's wrong.

It takes a good 4-5 minutes to boot

And that's very abnormal as well. Have you run the Disk Utility Verify function on the startup drive?

, so a working Sleep mode would be
useful for this system. I've looked at the Energy Saving settings and don't know what I should set to to.

What is it set to now?

Originally I thought it was a program that was doing this, but it does it regardless.

How can I fix this or does it need to be taken into the Genius Bar to be fixed?

I'd wipe it and install the OS on it myself, if you haven't already.

If you already have, and this is the way the machine has always worked, even with a freshly erased hard drive and new OS install, then I would start suspecting a hardware issue.

The system came from Apple with a fresh install of Lion on it. It came without disks or media but people here have been telling me Lion is a network-based install. I've not read up on the new install procedures, but I think I'm going to take it back to the Store and ask for copies of the original install disks. The person selling it to me said it should come with disks.

I have more info and seemed to have solved the problem, although by accident.

The problem of the Wake from Sleep/4 seconds/Back to sleep only happens when I'm logged in and put the system to sleep by closing the lid. I have the screen saver set to prompt for a password after 15 minutes. If I boot the system and leave it at the login screen, the system goes to sleep and wakes just fine. That pointed me to "must be something that's started when I login". On login, a ~/Library/StartupItems file was flagged as invalid. On the original machine that was the source for the migration, XRG and Hyperdock were disabled (I know Hyperdock doesn't work on 10.7). I was doing some general housecleaning (don't want Adobe on this laptop) and removed all I could find in various places including the launch agents/daemons. And I cleaned out that StartupItem.

Now, the system is sleeping as it should. I suspect that some stub of something was left by the migration process that interferred with Sleep.

So, long story short, "Nevermind" [said in Gilda Radner's voice] and thanks for listening.

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Message #7 - Posted 2012/07/03 - Michelle Steiner

Previously, Michael Vilain wrote:

The system came from Apple with a fresh install of Lion on it. It came without disks or media but people here have been telling me Lion is a network-based install. I've not read up on the new install procedures, but I think I'm going to take it back to the Store and ask for copies of the original install disks. The person selling it to me said it should come with disks.

Lion does not have install disks.

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Message #8 - Posted 2012/07/04 - Barry Margolin

Previously, dorayme wrote:

Previously, Michael Vilain wrote:

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro. When I close the lid and put it to sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark.

If you don't want this, see if or ensure that the "Require password" box under Security in the Sys Prefs is unticked.

I don't think he's complaining about the password prompt, but the fact that the screen goes dark before he gets a chance to respond to it.

Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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Message #9 - Posted 2012/07/04 - David Fritzinger

Previously, Barry Margolin wrote:

Previously, dorayme wrote:

Previously, Michael Vilain wrote:

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro. When I close the lid and put it to sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark.

If you don't want this, see if or ensure that the "Require password" box under Security in the Sys Prefs is unticked.

I don't think he's complaining about the password prompt, but the fact that the screen goes dark before he gets a chance to respond to it.

FWIW, I see that on occasion on my early 2011 15" MBP. Not sure what causes it, but I found that it seems to only happen when the MBP was plugged in, and removing the charging connection gave me the screen back. In my case, if the status light on the front is cycling, the computer will wake up normally when I open the lid. If it isn't, this strangeness will happen. Odd...

Message #10 - Posted 2012/07/05 - dorayme

Previously, David Fritzinger wrote:

Previously, Barry Margolin wrote:

Previously, dorayme wrote:

Previously, Michael Vilain wrote:

I just got a referbed MacBook Pro. When I close the lid and put it to sleep and it wakes up requesting a password, the password box appears for about 4 seconds, then the keyboard and display go dark.

If you don't want this, see if or ensure that the "Require password" box under Security in the Sys Prefs is unticked.

I don't think he's complaining about the password prompt, but the fact that the screen goes dark before he gets a chance to respond to it.

You are no doubt right.

FWIW, I see that on occasion on my early 2011 15" MBP. Not sure what causes it, but I found that it seems to only happen when the MBP was plugged in, and removing the charging connection gave me the screen back. In my case, if the status light on the front is cycling, the computer will wake up normally when I open the lid. If it isn't, this strangeness will happen. Odd...

The variables are daunting. If anyone has an algorithm to set the prefs and what to do when logging in and out and what generally to do to keep a consistent and unsurprising set of events from happening (like you are sitting talking to a client, the attached extra display to a Macbook suddenly wakes to display the suddenly woken MB when you are no where touching the desk) then let him speak or forever be silent and make way for the witchdoctor to swing a smoking urn and boil a frog or two.

dorayme

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