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Where do I buy the charger for a MacPro Book with the New Zealand plug-in on it?

Message #1 - Posted 2012/05/12 - Simon1952

If there is any0one reading this group from Oz or NZ, I am planning a trip to NZ in a few months. I want to get one of the chargers for the MacPro Book sold in NZ, so that I can take a plug end with my Mac. It doesn't matter about the capacity - the cheaper the better, actually - I'll just leave my plug ends at home and put the NZ plug ends on my power supply / Charger.

I don't know where you guys buy Mac stuff, nor what order number to put on it, but if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful...

S.

Message #2 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Helpful Harry

Previously, Simon1952@canada.com wrote:

If there is any0one reading this group from Oz or NZ, I am planning a trip to NZ in a few months. I want to get one of the chargers for the MacPro Book sold in NZ, so that I can take a plug end with my Mac. It doesn't matter about the capacity - the cheaper the better, actually - I'll just leave my plug ends at home and put the NZ plug ends on my power supply / Charger.

I don't know where you guys buy Mac stuff, nor what order number to put on it, but if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful...

It's alsmot certainly easier and cheaper to just buy a normal travel adapter plug.

It's very unlikely any of the retail stores here in New Zealand actually stock NZ power plug heads separately, so you'd have to either wait for them to get one or buy a whole new power supply.

You may be able to buy just a power plug head from the Apple WebStore, but I don't know what the part number is.

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

Helpful Harry :o)

Message #3 - Posted 2012/05/12 - Warren Oates

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

Helpful Harry :o)

Ah, Harry, everyone in North America has a long-distance love affair with New Zealand (despite the atrocious behaviour of your pigs during the All Black affair some years ago).

I've met a lot of New Zealanders that I've liked (in fact, I haven't met any that I've disliked). Here in Our Little Community, we have a Kiwi lady raises sheep; you drive by her place, and you'd swear it was in New Zealand, with the great big Pyrenees dogs and the sheep up the hill and so on; she raises children too, lots of them, her being Catholic, and they're all named after Irish saints (there's Dominic and Brendan and Bridget and so on (yeah, I know, Dominic was Spanish, but who's counting?).

I had a very close Kiwi friend in London some 30 years ago. We lost touch. I still owe him £50. You don't know an Andrew Mitchell, do you? --

... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child

Message #4 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Dr Eberhard Lisse

Can you please stop spamming this group with unrelated nonsense like the below?

greetings, el

On 2012-05-12 23:31 , Warren Oates wrote:

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

Helpful Harry :o)

Ah, Harry, everyone in North America has a long-distance love affair with New Zealand (despite the atrocious behaviour of your pigs during the All Black affair some years ago).

I've met a lot of New Zealanders that I've liked (in fact, I haven't met any that I've disliked). Here in Our Little Community, we have a Kiwi lady raises sheep; you drive by her place, and you'd swear it was in New Zealand, with the great big Pyrenees dogs and the sheep up the hill and so on; she raises children too, lots of them, her being Catholic, and they're all named after Irish saints (there's Dominic and Brendan and Bridget and so on (yeah, I know, Dominic was Spanish, but who's counting?).

I had a very close Kiwi friend in London some 30 years ago. We lost touch. I still owe him £50. You don't know an Andrew Mitchell, do you?

if you want to reply, replace nospam with my initials

Message #5 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Helpful Harry

Previously, Warren Oates wrote:

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

Ah, Harry, everyone in North America has a long-distance love affair with New Zealand (despite the atrocious behaviour of your pigs during the All Black affair some years ago).

Watch Lord of the Rings and you've seen the "best" bits of the scenery - it's much cheaper than the visiting the price-goughing tourist traps like "Hobbiton" and you don't had to spend many hours in a plane.

I had a very close Kiwi friend in London some 30 years ago. We lost touch. I still owe him £50. You don't know an Andrew Mitchell, do you?

Yep, there's only 4million people here, so I do know Andrew Mitchell. He lives a couple of suburbs away. Send me the £162.17 (£50 + 30 years of interest at 4% per annum) and I'll give it to him next time I see him. ;o)

Helpful Harry :o)

Message #6 - Posted 2012/05/12 - Wilbur Eleven

Previously, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Can you please stop spamming this group with unrelated nonsense like the below?

greetings, el

Fick dich Arschloch.

--

Fine then, I'm drinking coffee and rolling cigarettes and looking out at the hot baked street and a lady just walked by wiggling it in tight white pants, and we are not dead yet.

Message #7 - Posted 2012/05/12 - Warren Oates

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

Yep, there's only 4million people here, so I do know Andrew Mitchell. He lives a couple of suburbs away. Send me the £162.17 (£50 + 30 years of interest at 4% per annum) and I'll give it to him next time I see him. ;o)

Okie dokie. That'll get a load of my chest.

It's like the Brits, they're all "Oh, I have an uncle in Can-ee-da; perhaps you know him; he lives in Winn-ee-peg." A place I hope never to visit.
--

... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child

Message #8 - Posted 2012/05/12 - Steve Fenwick

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

Previously, Warren Oates wrote:

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

Ah, Harry, everyone in North America has a long-distance love affair with New Zealand (despite the atrocious behaviour of your pigs during the All Black affair some years ago).

Watch Lord of the Rings and you've seen the "best" bits of the scenery - it's much cheaper than the visiting the price-goughing tourist traps like "Hobbiton" and you don't had to spend many hours in a plane.

I think you're just doing the "protect us locals from the tourists" thing, the way Seattle locals (and Portlanders, to some degree) tell everyone that it rains all the time except when it's merely overcast, as a way to thin out the crowds. Friends who've been to NZ repeatedly sing its praises.

I'd watch "Xena" eps, but similar effect I suppose (never seen LotR, never plan to).

Steve

steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, sidecar in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

Message #9 - Posted 2012/05/12 - Leonard Blaisdell

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

I never seen a tuatara
I've always hoped to see one
But this I'll tell you anyhow
I'd rather see than be one

[apologies to the ghost of Gelett Burgess]

leo

Message #10 - Posted 2012/05/13 - David Empson

<Simon1952 wrote:

If there is any0one reading this group from Oz or NZ, I am planning a trip to NZ in a few months. I want to get one of the chargers for the MacPro Book sold in NZ, so that I can take a plug end with my Mac. It doesn't matter about the capacity - the cheaper the better, actually - I'll just leave my plug ends at home and put the NZ plug ends on my power supply / Charger.

I don't know where you guys buy Mac stuff, nor what order number to put on it, but if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful...

You can buy an Apple world travel adapter kit, which includes all the international plug adapters.

Assuming you are in Canada:

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MB974ZM/B

(If not, substitute the appropriate country code for "ca" in the URL, or omit this part for the US.)

The only cheaper option I'm aware of from Apple would be to buy an iPod/iPhone or iPad power adapter when you get to New Zealand. The iPod/iPhone one includes a tap-on power adapter, and the iPad one includes a power cord.

For my MacBook Pro, I prefer to use the full length cord rather than the tap-on plug, because it correctly earths the computer. With the tap-on plug there is a leakage current I can feel on the metal body, which creates a tingling sensation.

David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

Message #11 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Helpful Harry

Previously, Steve Fenwick wrote:

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

Previously, Warren Oates wrote:

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

Ah, Harry, everyone in North America has a long-distance love affair with New Zealand (despite the atrocious behaviour of your pigs during the All Black affair some years ago).

Watch Lord of the Rings and you've seen the "best" bits of the scenery - it's much cheaper than the visiting the price-goughing tourist traps like "Hobbiton" and you don't had to spend many hours in a plane.

I think you're just doing the "protect us locals from the tourists" thing, the way Seattle locals (and Portlanders, to some degree) tell everyone that it rains all the time except when it's merely overcast, as a way to thin out the crowds. Friends who've been to NZ repeatedly sing its praises.

Believe me, there's nothing here that isn't available elsewhere that is closer and cheaper ... lots of scenery (yawn!), bungy-jumping (whoop-de-doo), Hobbiton (WAY over-priced just to see a hole in the ground), ...

There's nothing unique or exciting. You can see animals like Kiwi birds, and tuatara reptiles at a zoo or even better images and movies online.

I'd watch "Xena" eps, but similar effect I suppose (never seen LotR, never plan to).

I've only seen bits 'n' pieces of Lord of the RIngs, but have no interest in watching the movies nor reading the books.

Helpful Harry :o)

Message #12 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Geoffrey S. Mendelson

David Empson wrote:

For my MacBook Pro, I prefer to use the full length cord rather than the tap-on plug, because it correctly earths the computer. With the tap-on plug there is a leakage current I can feel on the metal body, which creates a tingling sensation.

That's because the tap on plug does not properly ground (earth) the adaptor, while the cord does.

Inside the adaptor are MOV's (metal oxide varistors) which act as low grade surge suppressors. They leak ac. Not enough from a 120 volt main to feel it, but enough from a 230 volt main to feel it.

Geoff.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379
In 1969 the US could put a man on the moon, now teenagers just howl at it. :-(

Message #13 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Jamie Kahn Genet

Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Can you please stop spamming this group with unrelated nonsense like the below?

greetings, el

This from a spammer (dozens of groups with the same advert for it's website) who can't even post a message without emailing it as well, and who top posts everything. Who the fuck are you to say what goes here? *shakes head*

On 2012-05-12 23:31 , Warren Oates wrote:

[snip]

Ah, Harry, everyone in North America has a long-distance love affair with New Zealand (despite the atrocious behaviour of your pigs during the All Black affair some years ago).

I've met a lot of New Zealanders that I've liked (in fact, I haven't met any that I've disliked). Here in Our Little Community, we have a Kiwi lady raises sheep; you drive by her place, and you'd swear it was in New Zealand, with the great big Pyrenees dogs and the sheep up the hill and so on; she raises children too, lots of them, her being Catholic, and they're all named after Irish saints (there's Dominic and Brendan and Bridget and so on (yeah, I know, Dominic was Spanish, but who's counting?).

I had a very close Kiwi friend in London some 30 years ago. We lost touch. I still owe him £50. You don't know an Andrew Mitchell, do you?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Message #14 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Dr Eberhard Lisse

Ohh such language skills.

el

On 2012-05-13 01:18 , Wilbur Eleven wrote:

Previously, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Can you please stop spamming this group with unrelated nonsense like the below?

greetings, el

Fick dich Arschloch.

if you want to reply, replace nospam with my initials

Message #15 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Dr Eberhard Lisse

Because I can...

el

On 2012-05-13 08:52 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Can you please stop spamming this group with unrelated nonsense like the below?

greetings, el

This from a spammer (dozens of groups with the same advert for it's website) who can't even post a message without emailing it as well, and who top posts everything. Who the fuck are you to say what goes here? *shakes head*

On 2012-05-12 23:31 , Warren Oates wrote:

[snip]

Ah, Harry, everyone in North America has a long-distance love affair with New Zealand (despite the atrocious behaviour of your pigs during the All Black affair some years ago).

I've met a lot of New Zealanders that I've liked (in fact, I haven't met any that I've disliked). Here in Our Little Community, we have a Kiwi lady raises sheep; you drive by her place, and you'd swear it was in New Zealand, with the great big Pyrenees dogs and the sheep up the hill and so on; she raises children too, lots of them, her being Catholic, and they're all named after Irish saints (there's Dominic and Brendan and Bridget and so on (yeah, I know, Dominic was Spanish, but who's counting?).

I had a very close Kiwi friend in London some 30 years ago. We lost touch. I still owe him £50. You don't know an Andrew Mitchell, do you?

if you want to reply, replace nospam with my initials

Message #16 - Posted 2012/05/13 - David Empson

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

David Empson wrote:

For my MacBook Pro, I prefer to use the full length cord rather than the tap-on plug, because it correctly earths the computer. With the tap-on plug there is a leakage current I can feel on the metal body, which creates a tingling sensation.

That's because the tap on plug does not properly ground (earth) the adaptor, while the cord does.

I knew that. It is obvious for the NZ/Aus plug, because the earth pin is missing from the tap-on plug.

Inside the adaptor are MOV's (metal oxide varistors) which act as low grade surge suppressors. They leak ac. Not enough from a 120 volt main to feel it, but enough from a 230 volt main to feel it.

I figured that it wasn't enough to be noticeable at 120V, because if it was, a lot more people would be grumbling about it.

David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

Message #17 - Posted 2012/05/14 - Jamie Kahn Genet

Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Because I can...

el

On 2012-05-13 08:52 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Can you please stop spamming this group with unrelated nonsense like the below?

greetings, el

This from a spammer (dozens of groups with the same advert for it's website) who can't even post a message without emailing it as well, and who top posts everything. Who the fuck are you to say what goes here? *shakes head*

[snip]

So you're spamming scum. Willfully refuse to learn how to behave in Usenet. And that's your answer why - "Because I can". Wow, you really are determined to contribute _nothing_ to society, aren't you? I'm glad I meet people like yourself - it reinforces my self worth because I'm _such a better person_ *PLONK*

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting aka TOFU (Top-post Over, Full quote Under)
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?

Message #18 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Simon1952

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

Previously, Simon1952@canada.com wrote:

If there is any0one reading this group from Oz or NZ, I am planning a trip to NZ in a few months. I want to get one of the chargers for the MacPro Book sold in NZ, so that I can take a plug end with my Mac. It doesn't matter about the capacity - the cheaper the better, actually - I'll just leave my plug ends at home and put the NZ plug ends on my power supply / Charger.

I don't know where you guys buy Mac stuff, nor what order number to put on it, but if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful...

It's alsmot certainly easier and cheaper to just buy a normal travel adapter plug.

It's very unlikely any of the retail stores here in New Zealand actually stock NZ power plug heads separately, so you'd have to either wait for them to get one or buy a whole new power supply.

You may be able to buy just a power plug head from the Apple WebStore, but I don't know what the part number is.

On a side note, why would you want to come to New Zealand?? It's over-expensive (especially all the tourist-type things) and there's not really anything here to do that you can't do elsewhere and cheaper.

Helpful Harry :o)

Since I was in grade school, I have studied New Zealand and have wanted to visit your country. I have never spoken to anyone who ever said anything nasty about your country, and I still want to see the islands.

(Whether I get to Oz is another matter, but I wanna see you Kiwis on your home turf...)

Thanks for the info.

HR.

Message #19 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Simon1952

Previously, David Empson wrote:

<Simon1952 wrote:

If there is any0one reading this group from Oz or NZ, I am planning a trip to NZ in a few months. I want to get one of the chargers for the MacPro Book sold in NZ, so that I can take a plug end with my Mac. It doesn't matter about the capacity - the cheaper the better, actually - I'll just leave my plug ends at home and put the NZ plug ends on my power supply / Charger.

I don't know where you guys buy Mac stuff, nor what order number to put on it, but if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful...

You can buy an Apple world travel adapter kit, which includes all the international plug adapters.

Assuming you are in Canada:

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MB974ZM/B

(If not, substitute the appropriate country code for "ca" in the URL, or omit this part for the US.)

The only cheaper option I'm aware of from Apple would be to buy an iPod/iPhone or iPad power adapter when you get to New Zealand. The iPod/iPhone one includes a tap-on power adapter, and the iPad one includes a power cord.

For my MacBook Pro, I prefer to use the full length cord rather than the tap-on plug, because it correctly earths the computer. With the tap-on plug there is a leakage current I can feel on the metal body, which creates a tingling sensation.

Thanks. what with the iPhone (whcih I may leave behind what with Bell Roaming charges); the MacBook Pro, and the iPad, I think maybe their world travel thing might be the monkey's Hoo-haas!

S.

Message #20 - Posted 2012/05/14 - Helpful Harry

Previously, Simon1952@canada.com wrote:

Since I was in grade school, I have studied New Zealand and have wanted to visit your country. I have never spoken to anyone who ever said anything nasty about your country, and I still want to see the islands.

(Whether I get to Oz is another matter, but I wanna see you Kiwis on your home turf...)

If you live in Canada, then you've already got "New Zealand" as your back yard (mountains, forests, beaches), only a much bigger version without (hopefully) suffereing the third world education system, medical system, Government, etc.

Helpful Harry :o)

Message #21 - Posted 2012/05/13 - Simon1952

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

Previously, Simon1952@canada.com wrote:

Since I was in grade school, I have studied New Zealand and have wanted to visit your country. I have never spoken to anyone who ever said anything nasty about your country, and I still want to see the islands.

(Whether I get to Oz is another matter, but I wanna see you Kiwis on your home turf...)

If you live in Canada, then you've already got "New Zealand" as your back yard (mountains, forests, beaches), only a much bigger version without (hopefully) suffereing the third world education system, medical system, Government, etc.

Helpful Harry :o)

OK, so you are familiar with the Government Infrastructure in NZ, and you aren't happy.

Things ain't much better here, my friend. THe Governments have gotten people convinced that the Health Care situation is unacceptable and not solvable anymore, so they are no longer even pretending to try. Not that they take any fewer taxes, you understand. But they don't even pretend to care. They just treat everyone equally badly.

Education? Why spend money on education? Why build highways? Just whine about the cost. Canadians are like lemmings and never threaten or otherwise make politicians fear for anything, so we get NOTHING for our taxes.

THe UK seems to be much the same way, and it looks like Obama is taking the US down the same road.

Maybe too many years since the last bloody revolution? I dunno, but things are pretty much in the excrement all over the world.

But I have wanted to visit your home country since I was about in grade 8, and this February upcoming, it is going to happen. As we fly into Auckland, I'll wave.

S.

Message #22 - Posted 2012/05/14 - Jamie Kahn Genet

<Simon1952 wrote:

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

Previously, Simon1952@canada.com wrote:

Since I was in grade school, I have studied New Zealand and have wanted to visit your country. I have never spoken to anyone who ever said anything nasty about your country, and I still want to see the islands.

(Whether I get to Oz is another matter, but I wanna see you Kiwis on your home turf...)

If you live in Canada, then you've already got "New Zealand" as your back yard (mountains, forests, beaches), only a much bigger version without (hopefully) suffereing the third world education system, medical system, Government, etc.

Helpful Harry :o)

OK, so you are familiar with the Government Infrastructure in NZ, and you aren't happy.

Things ain't much better here, my friend. THe Governments have gotten people convinced that the Health Care situation is unacceptable and not solvable anymore, so they are no longer even pretending to try. Not that they take any fewer taxes, you understand. But they don't even pretend to care. They just treat everyone equally badly.

Education? Why spend money on education? Why build highways? Just whine about the cost. Canadians are like lemmings and never threaten or otherwise make politicians fear for anything, so we get NOTHING for our taxes.

THe UK seems to be much the same way, and it looks like Obama is taking the US down the same road.

Maybe too many years since the last bloody revolution? I dunno, but things are pretty much in the excrement all over the world.

But I have wanted to visit your home country since I was about in grade 8, and this February upcoming, it is going to happen. As we fly into Auckland, I'll wave.

S.

NZ may have education and health systems suffering after years of radical market-driven policies e.g.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogernomics>, but we're anything but third world. In fact our government and electoral system are far more democratic that Britain's or the USA's (to give only two examples), and we have better healthcare and education than the US (and last I researched a couple years ago we were right behind Canada, but feel free to correct me if I'm out of date). Now other socialist leaning countries do better than us, yes. But third world? That's not only flat out wrong, it's offensive. Humph - I knew I killfiled Harry for a good reason (originally for incredibly sexist comments).

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Message #23 - Posted 2012/05/14 - Jamie Kahn Genet

<Simon1952 wrote:

Previously, David Empson wrote:

<Simon1952 wrote:

If there is any0one reading this group from Oz or NZ, I am planning a trip to NZ in a few months. I want to get one of the chargers for the MacPro Book sold in NZ, so that I can take a plug end with my Mac. It doesn't matter about the capacity - the cheaper the better, actually - I'll just leave my plug ends at home and put the NZ plug ends on my power supply / Charger.

I don't know where you guys buy Mac stuff, nor what order number to put on it, but if you can help, I'd be ever so grateful...

You can buy an Apple world travel adapter kit, which includes all the international plug adapters.

Assuming you are in Canada:

http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MB974ZM/B

(If not, substitute the appropriate country code for "ca" in the URL, or omit this part for the US.)

The only cheaper option I'm aware of from Apple would be to buy an iPod/iPhone or iPad power adapter when you get to New Zealand. The iPod/iPhone one includes a tap-on power adapter, and the iPad one includes a power cord.

For my MacBook Pro, I prefer to use the full length cord rather than the tap-on plug, because it correctly earths the computer. With the tap-on plug there is a leakage current I can feel on the metal body, which creates a tingling sensation.

Thanks. what with the iPhone (whcih I may leave behind what with Bell Roaming charges); the MacBook Pro, and the iPad, I think maybe their world travel thing might be the monkey's Hoo-haas!

S.

I'd suggest getting a cheap GSM cellphone you can swap the SIM (if you can't already do that with your iPhone) with a locally bought one, if you're going to be in NZ and Australia for long. Otherwise just use Skype with WiFi.

If you want to buy tech online in NZ (maybe have to waiting for you when you get there) I like the online Apple store
<http://www.apple.co.nz/store> (expensive for non-Apple gear you can buy elsewhere), Mighty Ape <http://www.mightyape.co.nz/> (outstanding service, average prices unless on special), and Ascent <http://www.ascent.co.nz/> (cheapest regular prices of the three, wide range, and adequate service).

Or if you need adaptors and the like and want to shop in person, give Dick Smith <http://www.dicksmith.co.nz/dsnz/home.jsp> or Noel Leeming <http://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/> a go - they have most things a traveller might need computer and cellphone-wise.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Message #24 - Posted 2012/05/14 - Helpful Harry

Previously, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

But third world?

You're right ... New Zealand is more like fifth world, and dropping further every day. :o(

Helpful Harry :o)

Message #25 - Posted 2012/05/14 - Helpful Harry

Previously, Simon1952@canada.com wrote:

Previously, Helpful Harry wrote:

Previously, Simon1952@canada.com wrote:

Since I was in grade school, I have studied New Zealand and have wanted to visit your country. I have never spoken to anyone who ever said anything nasty about your country, and I still want to see the islands.

(Whether I get to Oz is another matter, but I wanna see you Kiwis on your home turf...)

If you live in Canada, then you've already got "New Zealand" as your back yard (mountains, forests, beaches), only a much bigger version without (hopefully) suffereing the third world education system, medical system, Government, etc.

OK, so you are familiar with the Government Infrastructure in NZ, and you aren't happy.

It isn't just the morons in government ... there's literally nothing here. The cruise ships pull into Auckland's port (the biggest city in the country) and you can see the tourists wandering around the central city wondering "Why the hell are we in this dump?"

Things ain't much better here, my friend. THe Governments have gotten people convinced that the Health Care situation is unacceptable and not solvable anymore, so they are no longer even pretending to try. Not that they take any fewer taxes, you understand. But they don't even pretend to care. They just treat everyone equally badly.

Education? Why spend money on education? Why build highways? Just whine about the cost. Canadians are like lemmings and never threaten or otherwise make politicians fear for anything, so we get NOTHING for our taxes.

THe UK seems to be much the same way, and it looks like Obama is taking the US down the same road.

Maybe too many years since the last bloody revolution? I dunno, but things are pretty much in the excrement all over the world.

Yep, it is the entire planet slowly cumbling thanks to most people (especially those in charge) being greedy, selfish, morons. :o(

Helpful Harry :o)

Message #26 - Posted 2012/05/15 - Dr Eberhard W Lisse

I think I have asked you before, how old are you?

el

On 2012-05-13 19:42 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Because I can...

el

On 2012-05-13 08:52 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

Can you please stop spamming this group with unrelated nonsense like the below?

greetings, el

This from a spammer (dozens of groups with the same advert for it's website) who can't even post a message without emailing it as well, and who top posts everything. Who the fuck are you to say what goes here? *shakes head*

[snip]

So you're spamming scum. Willfully refuse to learn how to behave in Usenet. And that's your answer why - "Because I can". Wow, you really are determined to contribute _nothing_ to society, aren't you? I'm glad I meet people like yourself - it reinforces my self worth because I'm _such a better person_ *PLONK*

If you want to email me, replace nospam with el

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